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Help!!! Rogers 380 Chicken Farm Find with wrap issues. Last viewed: 9 minutes ago

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I seriously bought this from a lady on a chicken farm outside Phoenix the other day. It was 80 bucks and even though they are not "real" Rogers I thought they might make for a cool next project. Plus it had a really cool Stanople ride and Ludwig Standard Hi Hats both made in Switzerland so I figured what the heck. Now the bad news: I am not sure if the wrap is faded from the sun or has some sort of calcification/mold/lime problem. There is like a thick white film on certain panels of the drum that look fantastic for about 5 minutes after I hand wax them but then return to the white filmy blurred out mess in the pictures. Sure does not look like any typical sun fading I have come across in the past. Any suggestions comments or insight into the drums would be great!

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Some shots of the damaged area:

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1954 Gretsch Name Band Outfit White Marine Pearl
1964 Ludwig Downbeat Kit Champagne Sparkle
1964 Ludwig Jazz Combo Kit Gold Sparkle
1964 Gretsch Jazz Progressive Jazz Progressive Kit
1965 Ludwig Club Date Kit BDP
1971 Slingerland 13,16,22 in Black Sparkle
1979 Rogers XP-8 Super Londoner Tobacco Sunburst
1982 Rogers XP-8 Black Londoner
Numerous Snare Drums
Posted on 12 years ago
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Some shots of the "extras"

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1954 Gretsch Name Band Outfit White Marine Pearl
1964 Ludwig Downbeat Kit Champagne Sparkle
1964 Ludwig Jazz Combo Kit Gold Sparkle
1964 Gretsch Jazz Progressive Jazz Progressive Kit
1965 Ludwig Club Date Kit BDP
1971 Slingerland 13,16,22 in Black Sparkle
1979 Rogers XP-8 Super Londoner Tobacco Sunburst
1982 Rogers XP-8 Black Londoner
Numerous Snare Drums
Posted on 12 years ago
#2
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Almost looks like some kind of chemical or? something "hazed" the wrap? Like something (petrolium or alcohol based maybe) that spilled on them? Did you wipe the shells down with a cloth and water first? Does the white seem chalky like a film (can you scratch it with a fingernail?) or just in the wrap itself?

Cool project none the less and I'm sure you'll be able to get them looking good soon.

Glenn.

Not a guru just havin fun with some old dusty drums.
Posted on 12 years ago
#3
Posts: 5295 Threads: 226

You could try giving them the old Novus treatment to see if it helps any...

Cheers

1976 Ludwig Mach 4 Thermogloss 26-18-14-14sn
1978 Ludwig Stainless 22-22-18-16-14-13-12 c/w 6-8-10-12-13-14-15-16-18-20-22-24 concert toms
1975 Sonor Phonic Centennials Metallic Pewter 22-16-13-12-14sn (D506)
1971 Ludwig Classic Bowling Ball OBP 22-16-14-13
1960's Stewart Peacock Pearl 20-16-12-14sn
1980`s Ludwig Coliseum Piano Black 8x14 snare
1973 Rogers Superten 5x14 & 6.5x14 COS snares
1970`s John Grey Capri Aquamarine Sparkle 5x14 snare
1941 Ludwig & Ludwig Super 8x14 snare
Posted on 12 years ago
#4
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Thanks for the input:

I actually tried Windex and the some hand rubbed Blitz Wax and it still keeps coming back. Have not just tried water yet but will give it a go. On parts of the drum I can scratch the stuff off and on others parts it does not seem to do anything. Might go for the Novus as well. The wrap looks so freaking cool wet. Almost like an orange creamsicle and there are no tears or anything like that and oddly enough the heads cleaned up to almost brand new. There are no holes or slits anywhere in the wrap which will make it an even bigger shame if I cannot bring it back.

1954 Gretsch Name Band Outfit White Marine Pearl
1964 Ludwig Downbeat Kit Champagne Sparkle
1964 Ludwig Jazz Combo Kit Gold Sparkle
1964 Gretsch Jazz Progressive Jazz Progressive Kit
1965 Ludwig Club Date Kit BDP
1971 Slingerland 13,16,22 in Black Sparkle
1979 Rogers XP-8 Super Londoner Tobacco Sunburst
1982 Rogers XP-8 Black Londoner
Numerous Snare Drums
Posted on 12 years ago
#5
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If they were mine I would use them for an experiment I have been wanting to do. That would be wet sanding and polishing with an electric buffer. There was a thread going earlier with a 20 minute video, a guy in England did it to a sky blue pearl floor tom. His results looked great, Ive been want to try that ever since.


Thank you!
Jeff C

"Enjoy every sandwich" Warren Zevon
Posted on 12 years ago
#6
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Try using a blowdryer..to open up the pores....then clean..while its hot...

Might wrk.

Bop iT / Til U Drop iT.

ROGER's
1964 Cleveland,.18/14/12 in WMP
1966 Cleveland, 20/14/12 O'natural.
Fullerton,...20/16/13/12 Silver Glass

WFL
1957 B/R Super Classics In WMP

Snares..
Wood & COB Powertones,
Wood & COB Dynasonics,
57 Jazz Festival

Zildjian avedis cymbals.
40s/60s era.
Posted on 12 years ago
#7
Posts: 759 Threads: 176

I was thinking about the wet sanding. I' see if I can hunt down that video. Hair dryer idea is interesting as well.

1954 Gretsch Name Band Outfit White Marine Pearl
1964 Ludwig Downbeat Kit Champagne Sparkle
1964 Ludwig Jazz Combo Kit Gold Sparkle
1964 Gretsch Jazz Progressive Jazz Progressive Kit
1965 Ludwig Club Date Kit BDP
1971 Slingerland 13,16,22 in Black Sparkle
1979 Rogers XP-8 Super Londoner Tobacco Sunburst
1982 Rogers XP-8 Black Londoner
Numerous Snare Drums
Posted on 12 years ago
#8
Posts: 1836 Threads: 336

From jccabinets

If they were mine I would use them for an experiment I have been wanting to do. That would be wet sanding and polishing with an electric buffer. There was a thread going earlier with a 20 minute video, a guy in England did it to a sky blue pearl floor tom. His results looked great, Ive been want to try that ever since.

That was the video I put up. I would also like to give that a try.

Posted on 12 years ago
#9
Posts: 6432 Threads: 290

skapunk, by the way, cool cymbals! I think you made a great purchase, I would have done it also.

Now were gonna egg you on to wet sand those tubs, see what you got yourself into!


Thank you!
Jeff C

"Enjoy every sandwich" Warren Zevon
Posted on 12 years ago
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