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You’ve heard that “necessity is the mother of invention”? Well, sometimes an accident is the father of invention.

I have a 1973 Ludwig Big Beat Vistalite set.

When I set up for group practice, I only mount the smaller left-hand tom to save time. Recently, I grabbed the larger right-hand tom by mistake. When I mounted it on the left-hand peg, I noticed something: the tightening nut, usually on the bottom, was now on the top!!

I’ve always had a problem getting my hand in between the two toms to tighten the nuts properly due to the confined space, but if they were on top, there would be plenty of access room.

So I’ll be removing the mounting pieces from each tom and turning them 180 degrees. The toms will be in their correct positions, but tightening the nuts will be so much easier!! Makes me wonder why Ludwig didn’t do it this way originally.

My kit:
Ludwig Vistalite Big Beat set consisting of:
14” X 22” bass, 16” X 16” floor tom, 8” X 12” ride tom, 9” X 13” ride tom, 5” X 14” snare
Ludwig 201 Speed King bass drum pedal
Ludwig 1124 Spur-lok hit-hat with Ludwig Standard Paiste 14” cymbals (760 & 770 gr) with ching-ring
Two Ludwig Standard S-270 cymbals stands
18” Zildjian crash cymbal (1550 gr) and 20” Zildjian ride cymbal (2130 gr) with CAMCO sizzler
Gibraltar motorcycle seat-style drum throne with backrest
Posted on 12 years ago
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From Tinman

So I’ll be removing the mounting pieces from each tom and turning them 180 degrees. The toms will be in their correct positions, but tightening the nuts will be so much easier!! Makes me wonder why Ludwig didn’t do it this way originally.

While we think of the tightening nuts as being on the "bottom" of the mounts, I think Ludwig considered them to be on the "inside" facing the player. The idea was probably to allow the player to adjust positioning while seated. I like your idea better as we're usually standing while setting up our hardware.

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Posted on 12 years ago
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Ludwig has always put their (our) wing nuts and set screws in odd positions. I think I've turned around (when possible) something on every Ludwig kit I've owned for that very reason.

I had an epiphany once. A couple swallows of Pepto Bismol and I was great!

fishwaltz
Posted on 12 years ago
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I did what you did to my clubdate kit a couple of months ago. I'm still so used to the original way that I keep setting it up the old way and then right before we're ready to start playing I discover that the tom is upside down and have to switch it quick. It's a "DUH" moment for me.

Posted on 12 years ago
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I always figured it to be a stylized decision. Streamlining the set by hiding the wing screws and nuts. Also the double Tom mount bracket on a Hollywood set is in the middle of the bass drum. I don't think they intended the toms to be positioned back toward the drummer. The badge placement and tone control (on keystone sets) also speak volumes on how Ludwig intended us to position the drums.

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Posted on 12 years ago
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