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From Purdie Shuffle

Squint/Jeff - > Purdie suggests construction cord of some sort. What I use is; venetian blind cord! It's perfect. Hit the basement or attic and see if there's an old set of blinds. Cut the cord off. It'll last you for years and there is enough cord on a set of blinds to do 30+ snare drums.I suppose construction cord is ok too, but the blind cord is perfecto!Hey Tommy - Right over left, left over right is how I learned to tie square knots in the Boy Scouts when I was 12. Right out of the Scout Manual. I had to learn to tie several knots to pass the test for my Second Class Scout badge. I still remember a lot of the names, bowline, half-hitch, dbl. half-hitch, sheet, halyard, etc. etc. etc. You an old scout?John

John!

Just saw this post now, so...

I actually learned HOW to tie a square knot from my father!, and he was the one that told me "right over left, left over right"... but ... YES!, I was indeed in Cub Scouts, WEBELOS, and then Boy Scouts. It was what we did back in the day, right?! You and I being "close" in age, yeah... that was indeed in the Boy Scout Manual. Gotta tell you though... know what I will NEVER forget that was in the Boy Scout Manual?... the chapter on "Nocturnal Emissions" ! LOL!!!!!!!! Remember that? OMG. I would bet that THAT is no longer in today's Boy Scout Manual... but maybe it still is. Do you know? Anybody? Bueller? Bueller? Sorry 'bout the slight hi-jack, but I couldn't help myself.

Tommyp

Posted on 12 years ago
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Tommy - up until six years ago, I still had my original Scout Manual from 1961. It got lost in the move from NY to PA and now I wish I still had it to refer to. To this day, that book is still one of the most practical books ever assembled. It's nothing short of a -survival- guide! Including the instructions on masturbation!

The 'nocturnal emissions' are just our happy, creamy centers oozing out! These days, my 'nocturnal emissions' are mostly gaseous... ask, Bev! I've introduced her to the old, Dutch Oven! lol

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 12 years ago
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I use a proper square not, but I have seen some pretty crazy looking attempts over the years...

Yep and if you do it wrong it's a Granny knot.

My Uncle Eddie taught me how to tie a hangman's noose. Regulation even~!

Yea my Mom wasn't so happy about that but I was pretty thrilled. Cool knot~!

Glenn.

Not a guru just havin fun with some old dusty drums.
Posted on 12 years ago
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From FFR428

Yep and if you do it wrong it's a Granny knot. My Uncle Eddie taught me how to tie a hangman's noose. Regulation even~! Yea my Mom wasn't so happy about that but I was pretty thrilled. Cool knot~!

That might come in handy someday Glenn, lol.


Thank you!
Jeff C

"Enjoy every sandwich" Warren Zevon
Posted on 12 years ago
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RE: choice of snare cord, I would not recommend the Gibraltor. I've found that it actually stretches a good bit. I've been using Ludwig and I'm very happy with it. You can buy a long roll of it for cheap. I've heard like John said a lot of people using mini-blind cord, which makes sense, just haven't ever come across any when i needed it. It doesn't stretch and looks just like snare cord.

Also, I don't use the holes on the P83. I just loop the cord around the top of the tabs where the holes are and finish it off with the trusty square knot.

Posted on 12 years ago
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What a great thread! I have a question that I have never had an opportunity to ask; When threading the cord thru the end of the snares is it better to go down thru one hole, across underneath and up thru the other hole, or start start from underneath come up thru one hole and across the top and down thru the other hole?? this is a real question :) I think the second way is the one I have settle on. thanks, Mbira

Posted on 12 years ago
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mbira,

That is certainly a fine question indeed. I am sure there will be a few answers about that. Some snare wires actually accommodate the cord by including a pair of channels in the end plate. In that case the answer is pretty obvious but will depend on the type and location of the channel.

Otherwise, I suggest the "coming from the outside and down in/across" method. While either way will raise the end plate of the snares off the head by the diameter if the cord in question, coming from the outside (on top of the snare when the drum is flipped over) and down through the holes has the benefit of pushing the end plate down on the head as opposed to lifting it up as it would when the cord exits if run the other way.

Of course some may argue that by lifting the end of the end plate you are in effect creating a lever that is physically pushing the snare wires into the head in a more satisfactory method. My assumption is that at this point we have delved way into the so-what category.

So, my suggestion is over the top and down into the holes. ...or use grosgrain ribbon...

tnsquint
Very proud owner of a new Blaemire Snare 6.5 x 14 made by Jerry Jenkins "Drumjinx"
Posted on 12 years ago
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mbira - You don't have to 'weave' the cord in and out of holes. Just come up from the bottom/behind the plate on both ends and tie your square knot right there on the front of the strainer. Done.

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 12 years ago
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thanks tnsquint that is what i was curious about and yes that is the same way I came to do it too. I will try grosgrain ribbon but on some of my snares there is no clamp on either the butt or the strainer.

And John thanks for responding, I have found that method works great too. but as you can see I was referring to how the cord is connected to the snares. peace, Mbira

Posted on 12 years ago
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From mbira

thanks tnsquint that is what i was curious about and yes that is the same way I came to do it too. I will try grosgrain ribbon but on some of my snares there is no clamp on either the butt or the strainer. And John thanks for responding, I have found that method works great too. but as you can see I was referring to how the cord is connected to the snares. peace, Mbira

Sorry, misread your post!

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 12 years ago
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