I'm going to regret posting this, especially since I'm not part of the 1000+ post club. :)

But the seller did say it was "tricked out", which means custom. He also said he had the chrome chemically removed, which discloses that the drum has been altered. He also states that there are custom lugs, brass tension rods, new tone control, P-86 and new hoops. He probably meant that the parts are more reliable because they are new. New P-86 is possibly better than gimped up P-85 with a worn out cam/threads. New tension rods would possibly be better than getting a used original drum with cross-threaded lugs. A new tone control would reduce the possibility of having a '60's version that is loose and rattles or the felt pad coming off.

I don't think he was misleading any potential bidders. If I were in the market for a "players" Supra that would be transported all over, then this would be a great option. Plus it would never flake/pit, like the "typical" mid to late '60's Supra. The "a-typical" mid to late '60's Supra wouldn't have issues with the chrome and it couldn't be purchased for $250 either. It would typically be in the $400-$600 range. At that price, why wouldn't you just buy a brand new Black Beauty Supra. A brand new Supra is still the same as a '60's Supra, isn't it? :rolleyes:

I love those lugs. Does anyone know where to purchase them?

My title still says 1968 Cheverolet Chevelle 2dr Hardtop, but it has a different motor, rally rims and '70's SS stripes. I guess it's just a Chevy now. :)

I bet the Supra won't last long a that BIN price.

-Tim

No, a brand new Supra is not the same as a sixties Supra, Your Chevelle with a motor that don`t match the frame #`s and door#`s is not original and is now a custom chevelle, different $$.

How many parts of this Supra are Ludwig ?

well it sold for the new buy it now of 240 shipped...

ya know, it seems though, that if one of us had a blistered up supra. and then we showed before pics and then after pics with the new look, that it would get a big thumbs up. i guess its all about perception.

mike

As long as what was shown before is what was shown after, the thumbs up applies, if you change out the lugs, rods ,muffler, to one`s that don`t belong to the model#, strip the chrome and polish the aluminum alloy, you get various salvos of various calibre !i

Go tell Curotto to sand blast all his snares to re-paint and replace the parts with new, different one`s and get all those vintage snares looking fly and tricked out, You`ll then see what most here feel about condition !i

I'm with Mike and Tim on this one...

The guy advertised the drum as a 'tricked-out' custom drum. It has the shell/body of a supraphonic, so I guess he's allowed to refer to it as a 'supra.' It is!

The guy is not 'gouging' anybody with his asking price. I built one of these, he's in for way more than he got out. Do the math: strip chrome and polish aluminum shell, 10 heavy-duty tube lugs, the Ludwig P-86, etc. etc. etc.

The guy lost money on the sale. Whoever bought it, has more in parts than he paid for the drum.

Last... that guy did a really good job refurbing/customizing that old supra. I did one three years ago. Had a badly pitted 60's shell, I had it stripped, polished and overcoated. I bought ten chrome over brass tube lugs and added a NOS P-83. Not only was a drum destined for the scrap heap saved, but a really great sounding and looking drum took it's place. (see photo)

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I hit a rough patch awhile back and I sold it, along with some other stuff, in order to raise some much needed cash. I got $250. for mine. Nowhere near what I had invested in it. So... don't be so harsh on the guy. He was honest about what he was selling, and considering how much it cost him to create it, he took a loss at the price. The new buyer scored.

John

I agree with oddball, what I am seeing here is, the fact that it is a nice drum and a players quality drum, But it is priced at what you can buy a real 100% original supra for, the only original part is ?? well their Isn't any original part, except for the shell which is also altered. I am old school I come from the original NSMD Not so Modern drummer crowd. I am/was a charter subscriber. I don't like non original drums, in fact I don't own a single one and I am anal as all get out about it. I have made this claim on here Many times. so that is my take on it, if you like non original fine just leave the stuff that may take a little longer to get up to original condition alone.

It`s advertised as a 68 Supraphonic,...it is not that. Yes he describes what has been done, but it is not a 68 Supraphonic !i

Maybe you people don`t get it,..those lugs and stripping the chrome adding weight with brass rods, is gonna change the way it sounds from what it used to sound !i It a great piece, but it`s not a mid sixties Supraphonic !i

I am going to have to agree that the seller did a fine job on the drum, he was completely up front about what was done to the drum and I am sure it functions quite well. This even passes Vintagemore's litmus test as it was another flaky chrome job.

Anyone who read the description knew what it was and what it wasn't. The price was very reasonable for a high quality snare whether it was a "Supra" or not. I am sure that even the seller is not suggesting you should do this to every vintage drum. Mike Curotto's collection is safe.

I am going to have to agree that the seller did a fine job on the drum, he was completely up front about what was done to the drum and I am sure it functions quite well. This even passes Vintagemore's litmus test as it was another flaky chrome job.

Anyone who read the description knew what it was and what it wasn't. The price was very reasonable for a high quality snare whether it was a "Supra" or not. I am sure that even the seller is not suggesting you should do this to every vintage drum. Mike Curotto's collection is safe.