I'm thinking of picking this one up, but are the floor tom brackets correct? Anything else look odd? Sorry... no more pics.
Thanks.
Aaron
I'm thinking of picking this one up, but are the floor tom brackets correct? Anything else look odd? Sorry... no more pics.
Thanks.
Aaron
those are ludwig clipper leg mounts not slingerland, is it missing the bottom rim also and t rods?
those are ludwig clipper leg mounts not slingerland, is it missing the bottom rim also and t rods?
Do you think those mounts would fit the original holes?
Yes. Rim and rods are missing.
Just got another pic
The beaver tail lugs on the drum are not original......Unless the drum was fitted with them in 1948 or later.
Beaver Tail lugs (1948-1954) are interchangeable with earlier streamlined lugs (1936-47), which this drum should have.
The absence of original floor tom leg brackets and the third inner reinforcing ring date the drum shell to late 1930's-early 40's. This tom tom would have sat in a cradle stand, as Slingerland had not yet "invented" legs. Often, leg brackets made by other drum companies were installed on Radio King drums from this era. Radio King leg brackets first appeared in 1947 - about ten years after Ludwig & Ludwig and Leedy introduced them.
I don't believe Slingerland leg brackets will line up with Clipper holes.
The beaver tail lugs on the drum are not original......Unless the drum was fitted with them in 1948 or later. Beaver Tail lugs (1948-1954) are interchangeable with earlier streamlined lugs (1936-47), which this drum should have. The absence of original floor tom leg brackets and the third inner reinforcing ring date the drum shell to late 1930's-early 40's. This tom tom would have sat in a cradle stand, as Slingerland had not yet "invented" legs. Often, leg brackets made by other drum companies were installed on Radio King drums from this era. Radio King leg brackets first appeared in 1947 - about ten years after Ludwig & Ludwig and Leedy introduced them.I don't believe Slingerland leg brackets will line up with Clipper holes.
Amazing info!!! Thanks a lot. Can't wait to get this one! Will retrofit streamliners on her. It FINALLY finishes off my BDP kit!!!!!
Glad to help!
Another indicator of the age of the drum is the green single felt mufflers. These were used on the early RK tom toms and snare drums until about 1938.
Speaking of mufflers or tone controls, I'd like to mention that Slingerland internal mufflers are officially known as the "Harold R. Todd" tone control. Often, I see them called "Dodd" or "Harold R. Dodd" mufflers. Neither are correct. Rob Cook's excellent Slingerland Book unfortunately misstates his name that way (I am a huge fan of Rob's books by the way).
It's a small point but let's give old Harold the credit for the first tone controls. He was credited with the first and rather complicated version which was used on Artist models, DuAlls and Broadcasters of the mid 1930's, as well as the more common double felt types.
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Regarding lugs.....if you are unable to locate streamlined lugs for your tom tom, early version Radio King snare drum lugs can be used. The very first RK tom toms used double ended snare drum lugs until Slingerland tooled up to make single ended tom lugs. These lugs can be seen on photos of one of Gene Krupa's first Radio King sets. Because of the age of your tom tom, snare lugs would certainly be correct in theory.
Here is an example of a Radio King drum with double ended lugs. Notice that they are threaded without inserts.
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