Dayton drums 1967-68.

Welcome DrummerDad51. You have found the most valuable resource for vintage drums in existence. End of story! You and I are in the same category of "I don't play drums, I have a son that does play drums and I support my son with my wallet." :)

Just a warning, you're headed down a slippery slope. Once you get that Rogers kit completed, you'll be hooked. There is just something about these vintage kits that becomes an addiction. You get one done and then you're off searching for the next. In my opinion, vintage drums are just as much works of art as they are instruments.

The Ludwig concert tom kit sounds great and we'd love to see some pictures.

It looks like you've got a good start on the Rogers kit too.

Here's a link to the 1967 Rogers catalog, which should be helpful.

http://www.vintagedrumguide.com/rogers_drumsets_1967.html

Here's a link to the 1967 Rogers color guide.

http://www.vintagedrumguide.com/rogers_finishes.html#

What wrap is on the two Rogers drums you've already purchased?

What size is the bass drum?

Adding a floor tom would give your son a nice manageable kit and the Ludwig kit (6/8/14/16/18) would be the "hot rod" kit. Your best bet would be to find a 16x16 Rogers floor tom. 14x14 floor toms can be hard to find and also expensive. Since you've already purchased two orphan drums (drums not originally purchased together), you really don't have to stick with the Dayton period for additional drums. There are the Cleveland made drums before the Dayton period and the Fullerton made drums after Dayton. I'd try to stick close to the 1967-68 time frame, but 1965 through 1974ish would be a good range, because of the style of hardware used. Most importantly the lugs and badges would closely match what you already have on your two drums.

One single word of advice when you get to the point of cleaning the drums, DO NOT use steel wool. :eek: Even the finest grade will still scratch any metal/chrome. Do some searches on the forum for cleaning techniques and you'll be fine.

Please post some pictures of the Rogers drums too.

Thanks,

Tim

Tim

Thanks for the response. I agree with the addiction thing, its a blast. Here are the Concert Toms Before and After.

I will do the same with the Rogers.

Thanks for all the advice.

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Tim

The Rogers is a second kit for him. He currently has late 80s early 90's Ludwig Super Classic.

The Rogers Bass Drum (20") is white or kind of off-white. We think it has was painted at some point as this is not a wrap choice for any of their drums in the 60's. Plus the Rogers script logo is painted white as well. The Tom is a beat up blue.

We will probably just start over and re-wrap everything.

Yep, sounds like it was painted. Can you find a small spot on the drum and remove some of the paint? Other members have been very successful in removing paint from wrap. Sometimes it actually can protect the finish of the wrap. It might be a lot of work, but give it a look see. Remember to be careful, because some paints are known to be hazardous.

Here are two companies that sell wrap material:

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http://jamminsam.com/

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-Tim

Hi drummerdad, welcome. I just want to say I think its great you support your son and are involved in the search and resatoration of additional drums for him. A great father /son project.

Jeff C

Can you wrap over the paint or does it have to be removed?

Thanks. Not being musical has left me in the dark with much of his experience thus far (besides listening). This has allowed me to share something he loves.

If you want to wrap the drums, you'll need to remove the existing wrap. If you don't, you'll probably have issues trying to fit drum heads on the shells due to the thickness of two wraps.

You'll also need to be very careful when you remove the original wrap, because it might pull off part of the wood shell with wrap. Then you'll have another mess to deal with.

I love listening to my son play. He just turned 15 and he's become a very good player. He's not a "hot rod, double bass drum, china crashing" player either. He plays kit for HS Jazz Band this year, been in HS Marching and Concert Band for 2 years and takes private lessons. I hope your son has some of these opportunities available to him.

He just recently figured out the Purdie/Bonham Shuffle (Fool In the Rain) and it's opened up a whole different set of playing for him.

-Tim