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WFL Drum Head Opinions

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I'm about to replace both heads on my '49 WFL contest snare and am looking for some guiding opinions. The drum currently has a clear Remo Weather King Ambassador Snare res and Evans G1 batter. The res is what came on the drum a couple years back and is maxed out. I've tried both this Evans and an Aquarian Texture Coated on the batter.

Not sure what to do with the res side and am looking for input on the batter. If it helps with head selection, this is my gigging snare and I play mid-volume, original Americana (rock with a country feel). I use brushes and light, 7a sticks and prefer a fat, wet tone out of my snare. Thanks for any suggestions.

Brian

'65/'66 Slingerland Stage Band in Red Sparkle Pearl
'67 Rogers Buddy Rich Headliner in Blue Sparkle Pearl
'49 WFL 6.5x14 Contest Snare
'55 Slingerland 7x14 Hollywood Ace Snare
'70's Premier PD2000 5x14 Snare
50's & 70's Zildjian/Paiste Cymbals
Posted on 12 years ago
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I too play mostly brushes and am not a hard hitter with sticks. On my old snares I either use Modern Vintage mediums or Remo Coated reverse CS Ambassadors. Diplomat Resos.

Posted on 12 years ago
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Yeah I'd give the Modern Vintage heads a shot. I'm a Remo guy usually but man do I love my MV on my 1940 L&L snare drum!

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1940 Ludwig & Ludwig Universal Concert Snare 6.5x14
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Posted on 12 years ago
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Something I learned in the studio is that fatter sticks, even when played at a lower volume, will give you a fatter tone.

Posted on 12 years ago
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Hint: American Vintage gives a looser fit for old WFLs and Round Badge Gretsch. Modern Vintage does not. American Vintage fit fine on my WFL and I use both the medium batter and the clear reso (recommended). Modern Vintage are too tight on my WFL snare (try at your own risk).

Occasionally people have a little brain fade and type Modern Vintage when they mean American Vintage. I know because I suffer from brain fade occasionally. That might not be the case with the Modern Vintage recommendations in this thread, and I apologize in advance if anybody is offended. Some old snares are even able to fit the Modern Vintage heads no problem. If you have one of these consider yourselves lucky. :2Cents:

Posted on 12 years ago
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From Stallwart

Something I learned in the studio is that fatter sticks, even when played at a lower volume, will give you a fatter tone.

Very good point. An often overlooked but critical part of the overall sound of a drum kit. If you are looking for a really fat sound from your snare you should try a heavier stick. A heavier stick doesn't necessarily mean louder but it will be fatter. Just as an experiment, turn your existing stick over and play the snare with the butt end. See what you think.

It's well worth trying a few heads. There have been some great suggestions that you should investigate. I use the coated CS heads quite a bit for a versatile head that adds some reinforcement, some control for overtones and a little darker tone quality. It's my "go to" snare head for most standard tunings in the pop, rock, contemporary country vein.

tnsquint
Very proud owner of a new Blaemire Snare 6.5 x 14 made by Jerry Jenkins "Drumjinx"
Posted on 12 years ago
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From Stallwart

Something I learned in the studio is that fatter sticks, even when played at a lower volume, will give you a fatter tone.

Thanks for the tip, stalwart! I've been using 7a that have real small heads. Ill try some 5b sticks as an alternative.

Thanks,

Brian

'65/'66 Slingerland Stage Band in Red Sparkle Pearl
'67 Rogers Buddy Rich Headliner in Blue Sparkle Pearl
'49 WFL 6.5x14 Contest Snare
'55 Slingerland 7x14 Hollywood Ace Snare
'70's Premier PD2000 5x14 Snare
50's & 70's Zildjian/Paiste Cymbals
Posted on 12 years ago
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From Chappy50

I too play mostly brushes and am not a hard hitter with sticks. On my old snares I either use Modern Vintage mediums or Remo Coated reverse CS Ambassadors. Diplomat Resos.

Thanks, Chappy.

'65/'66 Slingerland Stage Band in Red Sparkle Pearl
'67 Rogers Buddy Rich Headliner in Blue Sparkle Pearl
'49 WFL 6.5x14 Contest Snare
'55 Slingerland 7x14 Hollywood Ace Snare
'70's Premier PD2000 5x14 Snare
50's & 70's Zildjian/Paiste Cymbals
Posted on 12 years ago
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From zenstat

Hint: American Vintage gives a looser fit for old WFLs and Round Badge Gretsch. Modern Vintage does not. American Vintage fit fine on my WFL and I use both the medium batter and the clear reso (recommended). Modern Vintage are too tight on my WFL snare (try at your own risk).

I've ordered an American Vintage head. Thanks for the heads up on size.

'65/'66 Slingerland Stage Band in Red Sparkle Pearl
'67 Rogers Buddy Rich Headliner in Blue Sparkle Pearl
'49 WFL 6.5x14 Contest Snare
'55 Slingerland 7x14 Hollywood Ace Snare
'70's Premier PD2000 5x14 Snare
50's & 70's Zildjian/Paiste Cymbals
Posted on 12 years ago
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I agree for the sound you want, go with the thinest resonant head you can get, which I think is the Diplomat. There may be a thinner one marketed to the orchestra crowd from Remo, but maybe that is only the top head that is thinner... (brain fade is it???)LoLoLoLo

EDIT=> I just checked my book...

Thinnest top head is the M5 Diplomat at 5 mil. Regular diplomat is 7.5 mil but you may also be interested in the Renaissance Diplomat which is also 7.5 mil but warmer, darker and more articulate. (an ambassador is 10-mil for reference)

Thinnest resonant head is the 2-mil Hazy Diplomat.

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Posted on 12 years ago
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