I just stumbled upon this Glyn John's mic placement and panning recommendations. I have tried this placement and settings and I thought that it worked nicely...as I use four microphones myself, this setup was excellent.
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I just stumbled upon this Glyn John's mic placement and panning recommendations. I have tried this placement and settings and I thought that it worked nicely...as I use four microphones myself, this setup was excellent.http://en.wikiaudio.org/Drum_micing:Glyn_Johns_technique
I would be interested in hearing your results.
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I might just post something. I don't add any effects to the mix, as I want to hear how the drums actually sound to the audience. Right now I'm trying to figure out how to mic my 18" bassdrum to get a better sound; it's coming out muddy. Currently, Evans EMad, Aquarian with mic hole, no muffling, I've tried mic placements just inside, barely inside, just outside to 10 inches outside.
I have always used the 1 left one right and one in front of BD the two on the sides are above the highhat and above the floortoms and crash cymbals no effects just mix for volume..
I might just post something. I don't add any effects to the mix, as I want to hear how the drums actually sound to the audience. Right now I'm trying to figure out how to mic my 18" bassdrum to get a better sound; it's coming out muddy. Currently, Evans EMad, Aquarian with mic hole, no muffling, I've tried mic placements just inside, barely inside, just outside to 10 inches outside.
Try a smooth white ambassador on each side of the drum with a felt strip offset to one side under the head for muffling and no hole in the front head. Also, try a moleskin pad for the beater contact area and use a wood beater. Tune it until you get a nice note out of it rather than just a low boom or thud. You will be surprised how nice it will sound. Then use the Glyn Johns method for miking. Because of its small size, it likes to be tuned up a bit....18's always tend to sound "muddy" or "flabby" when not tuned up to a "jazz" tuning, in my experience.
I have always used the 1 left one right and one in front of BD the two on the sides are above the highhat and above the floortoms and crash cymbals no effects just mix for volume..
Yeah, that's what a lot of us do...but this really added presence, and the stereo imaging was enhanced. It surprised me. Don't do it if you like the same old thing.
Try a smooth white ambassador on each side of the drum with a felt strip offset to one side under the head for muffling and no hole in the front head. Also, try a moleskin pad for the beater contact area and use a wood beater. Tune it until you get a nice note out of it rather than just a low boom or thud. You will be surprised how nice it will sound. Then use the Glyn Johns method for miking. Because of its small size, it likes to be tuned up a bit....18's always tend to sound "muddy" or "flabby" when not tuned up to a "jazz" tuning, in my experience.
Thanks! I'll try the tuning up first, before investing in more stuff.
I made a diagram of the set-up I've used for many years for both stage and recording. I learned it from one of Arista Records engineers (Ron Zabrocki). Works especially well for recording. The overheads pick up the brass, hats and floor tom very well. Keeping the mic heads close together eliminates any delay or echo effect and angling them at 45 degrees catches both sides of the kit. I keep the overheads well above the cymbals. This set-up works great for me. I use three, Shure SM-57's for the overheads and snare and a Shure Beta 52-A for the kick. They give great over-all coverage of the kit and a nice, natural acoustic sound.
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