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Downbeat vs Club Date Last viewed: 3 hours ago

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All things being equal (identical shells, assuming 12, 14, 20 configuration), and obvious hardware differences aside (center mounted lugs, more/less lugs, etc.), what do you guys think about these two kits? If you had a choice of either, leaving cost out of it, and just thinking about playability, sound, etc., which would you want to have / own / play? I have a set of clubies, but have never had a downbeat kit. I have an opportunity to trade for one and I'm wondering if I should or not. Does it make sense to have both? I'd be trading a b/o 6 ply player's kit that I don't use for a 60's player's downbeat. Thoughts?

Posted on 12 years ago
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sounds like a great trade to me. i love clubdate drums. but the downbeats would usually bring in a better price for you. so, there is some value there.

mike

Posted on 12 years ago
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From mlayton

sounds like a great trade to me. i love clubdate drums. but the downbeats would usually bring in a better price for you. so, there is some value there.mike

+1 What Mike said...

John

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Posted on 12 years ago
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Id take the 60's 3 ply kit over the late 70's 6 ply drums any day no matter what. Especially in smaller sizes-the thinner shells sound better and are more versatile in my opinion.

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-Adam

Posted on 12 years ago
#4
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Take the trade for sure!

Posted on 12 years ago
#5
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yes before they change there mind

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66/67 downbeat with canister
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Posted on 12 years ago
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From Mspartacus

If you had a choice of either, leaving cost out of it, and just thinking about playability, sound, etc., which would you want to have / own / play?............Does it make sense to have both?

YES!!! Make the trade!

Okay, some of the responses have been about price/value, and yes, they're true, but not the answer you're looking for. I think the bigger difference between the two will be the shells more so than the hardware. If you want your drums to sound very warm and full, go for the 60s kit. If you want your kit to project, stick with what you've got.

I would rather own the Downbeat, personally, and that's from the standpoint of sound.

Does it make sense to have both? Maybe...if you're looking to have both sounds in your arsenal. I don't have any use for a 6-ply Ludwig, so I don't own one. I do have a 1970 Downbeat, and it's the only kit I need...

1970 Ludwig Downbeat
1965 Ludwig Hollywood
1970 Ludwig Jazzette
Posted on 12 years ago
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Thanks for the replies everyone. I was pretty convinced from the beginning that I'd do the trade.

Caddy - thanks for getting to my question. What I was aiming at was does it make sense to have a Downbeat and a Club Date in the same sizes. Will there really be that much of a difference between the two kits?

Posted on 12 years ago
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From Mspartacus

Thanks for the replies everyone. I was pretty convinced from the beginning that I'd do the trade. Caddy - thanks for getting to my question. What I was aiming at was does it make sense to have a Downbeat and a Club Date in the same sizes. Will there really be that much of a difference between the two kits?

Club Date vs. Downbeat: sound somewhat similar, if from the same era. The Club Date will sound negligibly more "open". You can control the tuning a bit more with the Downbeat. The resonance gained by the less hardware on the Clubdate is offset by the stifling effect of the center-mounted hardware. But, the fact of the matter is the shells on the two kits make a bigger difference than the hardware configuration.

1970 Ludwig Downbeat
1965 Ludwig Hollywood
1970 Ludwig Jazzette
Posted on 12 years ago
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It totally makes sense to own two different kits of the same sizes. They're different colors, right?.......marko

Posted on 12 years ago
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