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What type of crash weights do generally prefer? Why so? I'm in the process of putting together some old A crashes...16s and 18s.

Posted on 13 years ago
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Another great question on the forum.

I have cymbal SETS, so I have quite a few weight and size variations among them. There's no "right" answers. It's all in what pallet you want to play from.

That being said ...

Here's a partial list of a couple of the sets I have. I have quite a few more, but I figure that you can get an idea from this. Hope it helps.

Jazz1 Extreme Thin and Light

19 Dream Cr/Rd

18 Sab HH Proto T Cr

16 Zildj KCon T Cr

14 Stagg Lt Cr

14 Zil 60s Hats Ttop/T+bot

Jazz2 Thin and Dark

20 Meinl Byz Jazz Rd

18 Paiste Trad T Cr

16 Paiste Trad T Cr

14 Stagg Dk Cr

14 Paiste Dim Lt Hats

Groove1 Wash and Warmth - Soft Live Gigs

20 Meinl Byz Trad T Rd

18 Meinl Byz Trad M Cr

18 Meinl Byz Trad MT Cr

15 Paiste Londin Hats

Groove2 Punch and Volume - Live Gigs

21 Sab HH Vintage Rd

20 Meinl Byz Trad M Cr

21 Meinl Byz Trad M Cr

17 Paiste Twenty T Cr

14 Sab HH Proto Hats

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Posted on 13 years ago
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I tend to like Medium Thin crashes, but on the thinner side.

What was medium thin back then would be considered thin by modern standards. I find that it's not the weight that matters most, but the profile and the taper. I had 2 identical 60s 18" crashes that were within 4 grams of each other that sounded VASTLY different. You can't trust the weight, the label somebody gives it, or even the ink on modern pies...you've got to hear it and play it for yourself.

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Posted on 13 years ago
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Thank you both. I can see the point about the fact that a cymbal can sound very different due to other factors than weight. Best to play first, otherwise a soundfile is nice! I'm leaning on a thin weight by today's standards, but I'll check some out.

Posted on 13 years ago
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different size/weights for different sounds

my jazz/quieter set up is (2) 18" crashes (1) 16.

The 18's are med/heavy and the 16 is med.

for rawk/funk

i uses (2) 16's and (1)17 that are of the thin/med weight.

as mentioned above I've sorted them by "set" for complimentary sounds.

Posted on 13 years ago
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On a different note, I just scored a sweet old A ride cymbal 22". Nice and thin. Has a nice semi dark tone about it. That was taking a chance, since I wasn't able to hear it before. But success on this one.

Posted on 13 years ago
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From AtlantaDrumGuy

On a different note, I just scored a sweet old A ride cymbal 22". Nice and thin. Has a nice semi dark tone about it. That was taking a chance, since I wasn't able to hear it before. But success on this one.

That sounds like it would be really nice. Hope you enjoy it. I was a "cymbalholic" until I found a 22" 60's Paiste 602 that lived in a church for many years. That cymbal is probably not light years away from your new find. I have never been happier. A thin 22" - it's just really nice. Not loud at all. Just very comforting!

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Posted on 13 years ago
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thats how I feel about my 20" Kontro I just bought.

Comforting

Posted on 13 years ago
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I jus LOVE my Paiste GB's with a 24 ride and 15in SE 2002 HH's.

My wife tells me i'm "cymbal minded"

Posted on 13 years ago
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I tend to like cymbals of a lighter weight and lower profile. I don't generally hit hard and like the crashes to open up without too much coaxing.

Posted on 13 years ago
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