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From kellyj

Ambassadors and Diplomats are the ticket for 3-ply shells. I first tried an Emperor on the 6-ply Maple Camco's but it was dull and life-less. With the switch to thinner heads the toms sang! It could be the age of the shell and the character of the maple. It seems Birch is more suited to the heavier Emperor.

Try Aquarian Medium Modern Vintage heads top & bottom (or a thin on bottom works well too). The sound is unbelievable!

1957 George Way BDP 26" concert bass drum
1959 George Way BDP 22/12/16 w/ 5.5x14
1959 George Way Green Sparkle 22/12/16 w/5.5x14
1961 George Way Blue Sparkle 20/12/15
1961 George Way Jelly Bean 20/12/14 w/4.5x14
1960’s Camco Oaklawn Champagne 20/12/14/16w/5x14
1971-73 Camco Chanute Walnut 24/14/18 w/5x14 COB
Posted on 13 years ago
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here is the stuff I am waiting for.

I guess it was a 22 12 13 16 and the 12 is missing.

no big deal, I a ma two-tom kit player

and the snare is an early DW so maybe a Keller similar to the LA Camco shells considering what Camco experts told me once on this forum.

French vintage drums fan

C&C Drums - player date europe 22 13 16
Camco LA Natural Maple 22 13 16
C&C PDE, Ludwig LM404 (1969), DW Maple 1982
Bosphorus (Masters, Master Vintage, Black Pearl, Turk, Hammer, Traditional)

Play for the song, not for your ego!
Posted on 13 years ago
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From DolFan54

Try Aquarian Medium Modern Vintage heads top & bottom (or a thin on bottom works well too). The sound is unbelievable!

OK.

I will try that on my Luds.

It seems the Camco will be set with Aquarian satin finish heads.

French vintage drums fan

C&C Drums - player date europe 22 13 16
Camco LA Natural Maple 22 13 16
C&C PDE, Ludwig LM404 (1969), DW Maple 1982
Bosphorus (Masters, Master Vintage, Black Pearl, Turk, Hammer, Traditional)

Play for the song, not for your ego!
Posted on 13 years ago
#23
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I have an Aquarian vintage head on my Ludwig floor tom. Very nice tone!

That's a beautiful kit that will only get better over time. Nice Score!

The Tama/Camco (Hoshino) LA's actually had six-ply Keller Maple shells not birch. I know, I own them!

The Keller Maple shells were part of Tama's plan to "match" American quality for marketing purposes to professionals. They were made in bop sizes, one of the reasons Elvin Jones was contracted in 1978 for commercial advertising of the Hoshino/Camco drums. For two years this was Tama's "High-end" line of drums. After this, Tama adopted the Camco bop sizes for their "Swingstar" line of jazz kits. Very Cool history...

"Tama integrated all the engineering from Camco into their production process and the overall level of quality of their drums increased virtually overnight. The original plan was to market the low-end Tama drums to beginners and use the Camco brand to sell high-end drums to professional musicians. However, even the professionals were starting to use the Tama drums because the low cost of the Asian-made drums with the (now) high quality of hardware was a great combination." Harry Cangany

-kellyj

"It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing..."
Posted on 13 years ago
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nice piece of history here!

I played once on a Tama Imperial Star (the one played by Stewart Copeland) and it was a great work of craftsmanship! re rings, great hardware, ...

but if I remember well, the kit was HEAVY...

French vintage drums fan

C&C Drums - player date europe 22 13 16
Camco LA Natural Maple 22 13 16
C&C PDE, Ludwig LM404 (1969), DW Maple 1982
Bosphorus (Masters, Master Vintage, Black Pearl, Turk, Hammer, Traditional)

Play for the song, not for your ego!
Posted on 13 years ago
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Wow! Always great to try out famous gear...

Here's a pic of the Elvin Jones 1978 bop size 12X8 tom

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"It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing..."
Posted on 13 years ago
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From kellyj

Wow! Always great to try out famous gear...

this was not (unfortunately...) THE stewart kit, only the same model...

your tom is BEAUTIFUL!

French vintage drums fan

C&C Drums - player date europe 22 13 16
Camco LA Natural Maple 22 13 16
C&C PDE, Ludwig LM404 (1969), DW Maple 1982
Bosphorus (Masters, Master Vintage, Black Pearl, Turk, Hammer, Traditional)

Play for the song, not for your ego!
Posted on 13 years ago
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Thanks,

I found the whole kit in this condition. The laquer finish they put on 33 years ago now is like new. Pollux, your kit with nice Aquarian vintage heads as recommended here will sound great! Can't wait to see your pics!

-kellyj

"It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing..."
Posted on 13 years ago
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great craftmanship!

I love old things that keep being even more beautiful years after years...

French vintage drums fan

C&C Drums - player date europe 22 13 16
Camco LA Natural Maple 22 13 16
C&C PDE, Ludwig LM404 (1969), DW Maple 1982
Bosphorus (Masters, Master Vintage, Black Pearl, Turk, Hammer, Traditional)

Play for the song, not for your ego!
Posted on 13 years ago
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From kellyj

Wow! Always great to try out famous gear...Here's a pic of the Elvin Jones 1978 bop size 12X8 tom

It is very difficult to distinguish maple from birch as the differences are very subtle. The biggest difference although still subtle is the grain pattern. The tom in this pic has a grain pattern typical of birch.

1957 George Way BDP 26" concert bass drum
1959 George Way BDP 22/12/16 w/ 5.5x14
1959 George Way Green Sparkle 22/12/16 w/5.5x14
1961 George Way Blue Sparkle 20/12/15
1961 George Way Jelly Bean 20/12/14 w/4.5x14
1960’s Camco Oaklawn Champagne 20/12/14/16w/5x14
1971-73 Camco Chanute Walnut 24/14/18 w/5x14 COB
Posted on 13 years ago
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