they do not make this drum in a 6.5 depth. thats one thing that i wish ludwig had done differently. with their metal drums, when they went to 6.5 depth, they went to 10 lugs. i would dig a 6.5 ludwig metal in 8 lugs for certain.

mike

My first drum was a late 60's early 70's Ludwig standard aluminum in a school band kit. The stand, wooden case and keystone practice pad are long since gone, but the snare is still with me. It is a great sounding drum.

I know what ya mean John Cool Dude

I picked up my 1968 Standard two years ago. Check it out....it was only played about twice. Not a mark on it! All original P 83 strainer, muffler, snares, an awesome badge and decent shell!

Its one of my best sounding drums. Its photogenic too :)

Mine has few cosmetic dookies and it was missing the P-83 when I got it. The one that's on there is one I got from Vinny recently in a swap. Blows my mind how I never knew about what a great sound these drums have. Even the badge design is growing on me. Something I never liked.

John

Mine is NOT in nice condition - but it sounds every bit as good as everybody here states, not least the OP. "Dry" and "Crack!" are the words that springs to my mind.

http://www.gratisimage.dk/image-6D3D_4F1FC83C.jpg

http://www.gratisimage.dk/image-0166_4F1FC83C.jpg

http://www.gratisimage.dk/image-DD33_4F1FC83C.jpg

Great drum, if I were to keep only one of my snares, this one should be it.

Jon

They did come with classic lugs if you're lucky.

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very nice looking snares!

the wooden snares did come with classics sometimes but it appears that the metal drums always had the standard lugs.

mike

Thanks..

I would think the metal shells would be easier to convert to classics and hiding the footprints of the standard lugs...

ok no standard in a 6and 1/2 arco like shell so how rare are 6and 1/2 arco's?