To add:

I think part of the problem for brands other than Gretsch is that Gretsch made made more bop kits than did Slingerland or Ludwig. There are enough of them out there for people to see and feel. But Jazzettes and Jets are SUPER rare by comparison and many people just can't relate to them the way they can with Gretsch. The Jazzette and Jet kits are kind of legendary -like mythical unicorns ( ;) ). Some people believe in them and some people don't.

There have been exceptional amounts of money paid for rare drum sets in excellent condition in the past and it can happen again. This Jazzette is SO exceptional, I feel that it stands a chance of getting snagged....(but I wouldn't bet money on it!) All it takes is for that very-particular-type of person who has been waiting, waiting, waiting for "the perfect example" to come along, to find this drum set. It isn't the market-in-general that determines what the exceptional examples of rare drum sets will sell for. In fact, it's very likely that the general market will ignore them altogether. Tossing up an auction for something like this on Ebay, these days, is like tossing a fishing line into a toilet...in my opinion. The only cool thing is that we get to view it as spectators, cheering it on (or not).

Here's something....

I just did a quick surf of the net to get a price for a Craviotto bop kit. I found a YouTube video of a guy describing one..and the bass drum was, in fact an 18 X 12...and he referred to it as a "Jazzette-style" bass drum.

Anyway...I didn't find a price on the video, but on another forum a guy priced one and said it was priced at $7100.00 -no hardware package, no pedals, no cymbals, no mojo, no historical significance. It was a nice drum set, but it wasn't the kind of cool drum set this Jazzette is. -my opinion, of course.

I guess my point is that there must be some kind of market for bop drum sets that are priced in that range -otherwise, Craviotto (and others) wouldn't be going to the trouble to recreate them -and at essentially the same price range that some people are referring to as overpriced in regards to this Jazzette -the very drum set they are trying to mimic (and never will).

I guess I look at this particular Jazzette the way I would a first edition 1965-1/2 Mustang with only 1,000 original miles on it, kept sealed up in the Ford factory. I’d assume that car would sell for significantly more than any other Mustang of the same vintage. This set looks like it was stored away in cases, with almost no sign of age. It’s a prototypical example of one of the two original finishes and includes the complete package. It hard to compare that to any other Jazzette of any other finish at any other prior sales price. Like O-Lugs says, no one (at least not here) has ever personally seen one as pristine. For this reason, I’d probably be afraid to ever have it leave the house, which makes it as much a museum piece as an instrument. Very difficult to compare to anything else. But great to see.

well guys it must be a trend fleabay 150731136896

heres a 69 slingy kit they want $6500.00 i cant seem to copy and paste as before

the vintage drum market is not the vintage car market or the vintage toy market or the vintage potholder market or the vintage shoe market ... etcetera.

comparing them is rather moot and meaningless.

and, two overpriced kits does not a trend make.

what happens happens.

You are making me sad O-lugs.....as I had just that for years, finished in...what else? Black Panther. :) Had all the hardware and the Ludwig Standard cymbals that came with it. Gradually the hardware was replaced with heavier-duty hardware over the years until I finally traded the rest of the kit in on another Ludwig kit in the early 1990's. Although, I still have the Supra that came with that kit to this day.

Ah....shoulda, woulda, coulda DOH

The rarest of the rare VWs are the Rometsch roadsters based on the Type I VW, with the Hebmuller convertibles a close second. And yes they are worth big $$. Didn't anyone see what one of the Type II transporters went for last year at the Barrett-Jackson auction? Huge $$ and those were rather common (still are!)

The vintage market for anything is in constant flux. It's not meaningless to compare these things at all. The comparison is in the way that all these vintage things start out valued a certain way, but as time goes on and the objects become unavailable, the desire for them goes up. It doesn't always happen with everything (like potholders), but there are always objects of desire that gain value simply because they are unattainable. So, be it vintage cars, toys, clothes, etc., the fact is that when objects of desire that are not commonly available, suddenly become available, it's just a matter of time before the right eyes see them.

And I'm not comparing unrelated objects when I compare a similarly-priced Craviotto drum set, am I ? I am comparing the pricing of bop drum sets. A Craviotto drum set is at least as expensive as this Jazzette. Craviotto has determined that there is enough desire in the market to price a bop kit for over $7K (with no accoutrements). So, it's not out of the realm of possibility that the Jazzette seller could capture the attention of someone who is/was more than willing to pay that kind of money for a drum set. There is a market for high priced drums, but it's much smaller and obviously out of reach for most of the bargain hunters.

And there is never a trend for such rare objects -simply can't be. There are too few of them to create a trend.