that could be a nice snare with a little TLC. i love the clips. i've heard the name but i've only ever seen their snares, not full kits. i could be wrong, but hardel is one of those brands i can't seem to find much on. congrats on the purchase

Kona

You find the most interesting drums!!

Kona - Cool drum! You're in B.C. that might be a vintage Canadian drum company snare. Just a thought. I never heard of Hardel. Could be a short-lived Canadian company.

Pix after clean-up. That looks to be complete and in real good shape. Nice score!

John

Okay I looked online for a few and couldn't find much on it.

http://www.jedistar.com/jedistar%20drum%20dating_h.htm

This link here has a similar drum and he says 1940's. If that is true or now I don't know. If you look at it it has the little metal things to guide the lug. Maybe that means yours is even older and this was a add on over the years? Or someone took them off?

Gary, If i recall Hardel was a music store back in the 30'-40;s i think on the east coast like most of these drums named like these they were not made by Hardel its just a store name.Most of these drums were made by Leddy or Conn and sold to the store and they put the store name on them..The claws and strainer look leedy to me...Mikey

Thanks guys. It's great to have you there to bounce this stuff off of and to get your input - appreciated - this is a great Forum.

I'm thinking maybe mine is a cheaper drum than the one shown on the website above - because mine has no t-rod guides and the snare hope holes are less functional on mine. When I say less functional I mean when I crank the single tension rods tight enough to get the drum tuned decent enough the hoop cuts the snare wire off (won't let the snares do their thing at the throwoff). The snare wires are pinched between where they passes between the metal snare hoop and the drumshell (snarebed). Maybe my drum is older too??

It's easy enough for me to fix that - I would cut the metal hoop at the snare guides (is that what you call these?) and my snare hoops would be more like the ones in the link above.

Part of me - the Vintage part - says "don't cut the snare hoop - leave it alone and live with it."

What you say my Vintage brothers/sister??

Tucking a Slunk calf on the snare side may solve the Pinching Problem?

It did come with a calfhide head on the batter - torn and useless now.

I have a new 14" I can cut down and a Slunk calfhide I can use on the snare side.

This may solve a bit of the problem because I can control the collar depth distance by tucking my own heads and this will give me more room to play with regarding the "pinching problem." I'd rather do this than cut that nice ole hoop even though it doesn't work properly right now.

The other factor here is maybe the drum did come with a calfhide on the snare side and it may have worked just fine with the natural head.............we'll see.

I kind of like tucking calfhide heads - part of the adventure:cool:

It is your drum so you can do as you wish. I don't think i would cut on it though. Maybe there is something your overlooking?? I would try to get a head that should be on then try it out first. If you have the same problems after you get a original head and really wanna use it, well i guess cut away. Maybe get a appraisal before you cut it though because when you do cut it, value could go down.

Just my thoughts lets see that the other minds here think.

Mr.Lud

I think a natural hide was on the reso side when the drum was made.

I'm custom fitting a wood flesh-hoop to that side right now. Got it glued and clamped in place - glue's drying. I will be tucking a slunk calf to it maybe later today.....will see how the custom fitted flesh-hoop looks like first. I have a nice new American White calfhide I bought from Jeff at SternTanning last year that I will be mounting to the original wood flesh-hoop on the batter side.

YES ! No Cutting

I didn't even use a cleaner to clean the shell finish for fear of taking some of the aged lacquer off. I wiped it off with a soft cloth and applied a bit of the wax of the leaves of the palm Copernicia prunifera Palm or Brazil wax = Carnauba Wax:rolleyes:

In the meantime I will be looking for more info on the Hardel label.

Pix when I get the drum complete.

I can't wait to see. Its a neat drum. I am new here and kinda seeing all this for the first time so its neat to see all the different things that were used over the years.

I will keep a lookout for it too. If I should find anything I will let you know!!