Here is a beautiful Ludwig jazzfest in a silver sparkle finish. This is a b/o badge with the 3ply shell and clear interior. The only flaw is someone had cut the badge at the top, very clean cut, but it's there. Will also trade for a wmp Ludwig snare, thanks.
$330 shipped
Johnny - a lot of early B/O badge drums (mostly the late 60's supra and acro shells) had the vent hole high on the shell because of the center bead. The top part of the then new B/O badges were being hidden under the top hoop. Ludwig's 'cheapo' solution was to cut down a bunch of badges to use on those shells. A lot of those 'cut badges' turn up on very early 70's drums. When the workers badged-up a drum, they just reached into the badge bin and used whatever they came up with. There was no real rhyme or reason to it. That's why out of sequence number series in a lot of the badges almost has no real meaning. Apparently, your drum was made while some of these cut badges still occupied the badge bin and someone slapped it on to a drum with a well centralized vent hole. The cut top really stands out.
Little piece of Ludwig trivia and history. The cut badge has a story.
Best of luck with your sale, beautiful example.
John
Well, that means the snare is pretty much flawless, thank you.
Johnny - a lot of early B/O badge drums (mostly the late 60's supra and acro shells) had the vent hole high on the shell because of the center bead. The top part of the then new B/O badges were being hidden under the top hoop. Ludwig's 'cheapo' solution was to cut down a bunch of badges to use on those shells. A lot of those 'cut badges' turn up on very early 70's drums. When the workers badged-up a drum, they just reached into the badge bin and used whatever they came up with. There was no real rhyme or reason to it. That's why out of sequence number series in a lot of the badges almost has no real meaning. Apparently, your drum was made while some of these cut badges still occupied the badge bin and someone slapped it on to a drum with a well centralized vent hole. The cut top really stands out.Little piece of Ludwig trivia and history. The cut badge has a story.Best of luck with your sale, beautiful example.John
I don't think you looked at the pic closely John. This is not a regular "cut" B/O badge, but the corner has been snipped off, probably cause it was bent up bad. Here's a pic of the "cut" B/O badge you are referring to.
BTW JR, that is a nice snare.
I'm confused, the badge on your supra doesn't seem all that high, why would they need to cut off a tiny piece? The hoop wouldn't cover it even if it wasn't cut.:confused:
I'm confused, the badge on your supra doesn't seem all that high, why would they need to cut off a tiny piece? The hoop wouldn't cover it even if it wasn't cut.:confused:
The drum isn't mine, it's one being sold on ebay. The reason they cut the badge is because it's a "B" stock drum. It probably has some blemish that you can barely see. Back in the 70's though, supposedly they were doing this to some of their "endorser" drums.
BTW, here's the link to the ebay drum, in case you want to read about the "B" stock drums.
It's deceptive, John. That's a deep-dish snare, on a 5" shell the top of the badge would tuck under the hoop. They had a lot of problems with those badges. Besides the rim issue, drummers were getting the sleeves of their shirts caught in the pointy corner of the badge all the time, (maybe they were all wearing Mambo shirts with those big baggy sleeves!) peeling the badges back, so they eventually had to round off that top corner altering the badge yet again.
Thanx for the photo Mendozart!
John
Well, I'm still confused, is mine factory cut or done by some smo with no brains?
The drum isn't mine, it's one being sold on ebay. The reason they cut the badge is because it's a "B" stock drum. It probably has some blemish that you can barely see. Back in the 70's though, supposedly they were doing this to some of their "endorser" drums.BTW, here's the link to the ebay drum, in case you want to read about the "B" stock drums.http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Ludwig-6-5x14-Supraphonic-COB-Snare-Drum-439-99-/400232512663?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d2fb77c97
I don't think that's a good example of what we've been discussing, that's a new drum and the badge was cut for different reasons.
I don't think that's a good example of what we've been discussing, that's a new drum and the badge was cut for different reasons.
The reason I posted that pic, is because of the "cut" B/O badge being discussed. Your badge was snipped by someone, probably because the corner got bent up. It was not cut at the factory, but by some previous owner.
