PLEASE, OH PLEASE TELL ME THERE IS NOT ANOTHER AMERICAN LIVING HERE! That's my guess or you are the best English speaking (writing) Italian I know. OMG there goes the neighborhood. I tell all the locals here that George (Clooney, we are on a first name basis) and I are great friends but we have an agreement that he will not trespass on Lago Maggiore territory and I will stay away from Lake Como. I think they believe me. Anyway if you are one of those damn Americans, don’t tell them Gringos Maggiore is better. Just let them continue to think Lake Como is better.French wines?? Che schifo!I digress.Believe it or not, I have sold all my Gretsch catalogues (don’t tell anyone). After I wrote the book I thought WTF, what do I need these for? So I can’t tell you the catalogue name (my guess? Floor Tom Legs) but for lack of the specific catalogue terminology I would call them “Nodal Post Floor Tom Legs.” Maybe mention the similarity to Gladstone’s (?). As I said, who knows who thought of it first, but a damn good idea, huh? Less stuff attached to the shell=more resonance. That’s my belief anyway and from my research, Gladstone’s too. That said has anyone noticed the base plate of a Gretsch Gladstone or Billy Gladstone throw off? Hey lighten up! In fact, I stripped the Gretsch Gladstone throw from my Craviotto/Lang birdseye maple drum to complete a Gretsch Gladstone missing same.[Attachment: 25560] For the Craviatto, I am fabricating a mock Gladstone throw from spare parts but with a much smaller base. Oh forgive me Billy, for I have sinned.

That`s pretty dark for maple,...but I like the style of that drum !! Did you drop it ?

chet, what did you think or not of the lang/craviotto drum?good stuff keep it coming!

Uh, not sure how to respond to this one. The drum is mahogany (a factory option) not maple. Did I drop it? No. (?)

Hi MikePLEASE, I implore you, put the die cast rims back on the drum. Seriously, these drums, in my opinion, I repeat, in my opinion, should be left as original as possible. I know there are those that disagree with me (name the bum!) but for future generation’s sake the drums should not be modified, even drums that have some modifications already. I realize the old Gretsch stick choppers are sometimes on the “undesirable” side with the flaking or non-existent plating, but they are the original rims. I once saw a comment that we are only the caretakers of these drums…wish I had said that!Yeah you did commit a sin. Say three Hail…oh never mind. One more hole, even in a Swiss cheese drum, is a sin. My opinion.“when you refer to the "Back grip" is that what you are talking about? The hooks?” No, I was talking about the single post butt (Gretsch called it a “Back Grip”). Like I said in a previous post (sorry I’m so long winded), I learned something new with this drum and subsequent posts…that Max Roach snares also came with a standard two bolt clamp butt. So much for my “know it all” attitude, huh? (Damn you Bill Hagner for not telling me!)“There can't be too many of these.” Nope.BestChet

PLEASE, OH PLEASE TELL ME THERE IS NOT ANOTHER AMERICAN LIVING HERE! That's my guess or you are the best English speaking (writing) Italian I know. OMG there goes the neighborhood. I tell all the locals here that George (Clooney, we are on a first name basis) and I are great friends but we have an agreement that he will not trespass on Lago Maggiore territory and I will stay away from Lake Como. I think they believe me. Anyway if you are one of those damn Americans, don’t tell them Gringos Maggiore is better. Just let them continue to think Lake Como is better.French wines?? Che schifo![F]or lack of the specific catalogue terminology I would call them “Nodal Post Floor Tom Legs.”

Thanks Chet, Right now I do have the stick choppers on this snare along with the microsensitve that came on the shell when I got it and a single point "back grip" that I added. As far as the Renown strainer & the 2 point "back grip" (right?) - I could put the pieces that I have on the snare and it would be outfitted as it originaly was when it was made, but not with the actual parts that came on the drum when it was made. I never received those pieces. And as far as the holes it would be a matter of plugging the microsensitive holes & the "new" single point hole & unplugging the original strainer holes & butt holes (now that was not intended as it came out!) and use some of the old original peacock sparkle inlay that I have to fill in the wrap.

I think your long form name for the nodal lugs explains why the Gladstone moniker has prevailed. Even if it's not technically correct they are worthy of the name as you state. It's not the only instance of this in drum taxonomy, for there are all those Ringo red ludwig oval thrones that I've never actually seen him using....You and Clooney are safe. I only casually see lake country on the way through Lugano. I've got Liguria instead. I'll give up the schifosi vini francesi when someone shows me a good Italian rose'.