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Hi all,

Back in 2006 I submitted a post regarding an old Japanese stencil kit and had great feedback on identifying the brand etc however, still not sure what it's name is and to be perfectly honest, may never know. I did see a very similar kit for sale on ebay some time back with the badge labelled "Challenge" but yet to find another kit of the same vintage anywhere.

Refer: http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=1743

I have cleaned it up and added some extra's (such as RIMs mounts on the toms etc) in order to give it a new spice of life! Take a look...I must say, for a non-branded kit, it sure looks like it's worth a few bucks!!

Any further help identifying it would be appreciated!

Rgds

Grant

Posted on 15 years ago
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Nice looking kit and nice job bringing them back to life. I noticed in a few of the pics it looks like it's mic'd up (in a studio) - So how does it sound? Any sound files we could have a listen too?

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Posted on 15 years ago
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Maybe try digging around George's site... if you haven't already been there.

Not a Guru... just interested..
Posted on 15 years ago
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From big daddy

Nice looking kit and nice job bringing them back to life. I noticed in a few of the pics it looks like it's mic'd up (in a studio) - So how does it sound? Any sound files we could have a listen too?

Hi! Thanks for your message. I am a studio drummer and have quite a few recordings of this kit - have a listen to this one to give you an indication of the kits sound - unmixed! (with a piccolo snare which is not the original)

: http://splitter.com.au/CameoCruiz/tracks/Marry%20You%20-%20Cameo%20Cruiz.wav

Enjoy! grant

Posted on 15 years ago
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Very nice set, and I like the way they sound. did you write the tune? band3

"Ignorance may be overcome through education. Stupidity, however, is a lifelong endeavor." So, educate me, I don't likes bein' ignant...
"I enjoy restoring 60s Japanese "stencil" drums...I can actually afford them..."I rescue the worst of the old valueless drums for disadvantaged Children and gladly accept donations of parts, pieces and orphans, No cockroaches, please...
http://www.youtube.com/user/karstenboy
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Posted on 15 years ago
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Hi all,

Well further to this post I have come across another almost identical kit to mine in these photos but this one is called a "Riviera" kit. Refer to the attached photos.

Does anyone know whether these kits were put together, branded differently and have different lugs per brand? For example, I've seen them called Aria, Tempo and now Riviera! Any info you can share would be appreciated!!

Thanks

Grant

Posted on 15 years ago
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Another MIJ,er is born!!Welcome

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Posted on 15 years ago
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MIJ'ER ??? Please explain....

Posted on 15 years ago
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MIJer...Made In Japan...enthusiast. The other kit looks like it is a Pearl, looking at the strainer, however, I would like to see the lugs closer. The first kit is built by a company called Hoshino, it has what we call "sharks tooth" lugs. This second kit, if you could get the lugs of the bass and snare, with a closer pic of the strainer, we can tell whether it is Star or Pearl in origin. Star and Pearl lugs on the bass are quite different as well as the single snare lugs. I love these old girls. If you come across another set, start looking for 3 ply shells, they resonate so much deeper. You will be amazed. And if you find a set of 3 plies, let me know and I walk you through advanced restoration that will take it to new heights of WOW!

"Ignorance may be overcome through education. Stupidity, however, is a lifelong endeavor." So, educate me, I don't likes bein' ignant...
"I enjoy restoring 60s Japanese "stencil" drums...I can actually afford them..."I rescue the worst of the old valueless drums for disadvantaged Children and gladly accept donations of parts, pieces and orphans, No cockroaches, please...
http://www.youtube.com/user/karstenboy
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Coffee...16613138379603
Posted on 15 years ago
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From gweinst

Hi all, Well further to this post I have come across another almost identical kit to mine in these photos but this one is called a "Riviera" kit. Refer to the attached photos. Does anyone know whether these kits were put together, branded differently and have different lugs per brand? For example, I've seen them called Aria, Tempo and now Riviera! Any info you can share would be appreciated!! ThanksGrant

Grant, they are "branded" as stencils were badged per the distributors wishes, also they were built by Star (TAMA), Pearl, and later by Hoshino. They each had different styles of lugs, Star had 3 styles, as well as Pearl. Hoshino, we are not certain but seems only one type. The shells, they changed from really thin 3 ply to 6 and 9 ply in 67-68. The 3 ply shells resonate and have a deeper, woodier tone, the 6 and 9, well you have those, so you know how they sound. The snare and toms are usually 6 and the bass 9 ply. A lot of snares are really thin as well, almost looking like single ply lauan with a wrap around it and rerings. So you can kind of get an idea what to look for, the older drums with the thin shells have early 60s hardware as they were shameless in their attempts to emulate American builders toa tee. I like the thinner shells because to my ears they sound like American drums, and I can afford them, where I cannot afford the same Luds or Slings. The thicker ones, sound like Japanese drums of the era and later, until they got it that ply shells of better grades of wood sound better. Not that lauan sounds bad, I love the sound of thin lauan, but the thicker sounds sharp to me.

"Ignorance may be overcome through education. Stupidity, however, is a lifelong endeavor." So, educate me, I don't likes bein' ignant...
"I enjoy restoring 60s Japanese "stencil" drums...I can actually afford them..."I rescue the worst of the old valueless drums for disadvantaged Children and gladly accept donations of parts, pieces and orphans, No cockroaches, please...
http://www.youtube.com/user/karstenboy
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Coffee...16613138379603
Posted on 15 years ago
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