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Old 06-22-2015, 04:21 PM
geckobeats geckobeats is offline
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Default Do drums age after 20-25 years?

What's your thoughts guys?

Do Drums, Cymbals, metal Snares etc age after a period of time, and then become, or fulfil their true sound potential?

I've definitely had a conversation with a drum builder years ago saying whatever age of the wood, when you first manipulate it into the shape of a drum it's under pressure and will always have a brighter if not pingy sound. It takes sometime for it to relax into that form.

I'm sure Ive had a similar discussion about cymbals years ago. That actually they are always changing.

Is that part of the key to the magic of our beloved vintage drums? Some of you remember them new, but can you track the ageing process, or is it all just codswallop?
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Old 06-22-2015, 04:56 PM
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Default Re: Do drums age after 20-25 years?

No doubt that the timber dries out which must certainly affect the tone, I reckon it mellows the tone somewhat but that's just me.. Read an article somewhere where Leo Fender disputed that his guitar body's improve over time ...he was of the codswallop camp.. hell knows..

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Old 06-22-2015, 05:23 PM
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Default Re: Do drums age after 20-25 years?

Not in any way, shape or form is it "codswallop." It's always good to compare our beloved wood drums to other quality instruments made of wood. s is a well-known example of age 'mellowing/improving' the sound of a wood instrument. The same goes for fine wood acoustic guitars, the sound gets mellower, better tone, with age. Drums are no different. I have a 59' 3-ply African mahogany kit that is as warm, deep and rich in tone as any drums can be. It's a qualitative thing that I can hear when I'm playing them. Not codswallop at all... I think there's a lot to it.

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Old 06-22-2015, 05:34 PM
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Default Re: Do drums age after 20-25 years?

Well- I have a NEW (3 yr. old Luddy set) - an older '68 Luddy set- and an older (yet) '47 WFL set..... The oldest is 'warmest' and 'deep'- if that makes sense.... the '68 is 'mellow' and 'full'... and my new set is... 'bright' and 'clean'....all are resonant when left undampened... and I love the tone of all of them.... but- different styles of music 'speak' to me and I use the different sets for them.... oh yeah- and my 8 tom double bass single-headed '68 Slingerland is just..... bombastic.... so I think age DOES affect the wood, the plies, the glue, the tension involved in the hardware- is it GOOD or BAD?- I think good! A 'woodologist' would know about the expansion or contraction of the wood cells causing better or worse resonance....but I'm no scientist! so.... Let it get OLD..... (I am...)!
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Old 06-22-2015, 05:46 PM
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Default Re: Do drums age after 20-25 years?

yes. they always continue to age.
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Old 06-22-2015, 05:52 PM
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yes. they always continue to age.
Right to the point,,,
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Old 06-22-2015, 06:40 PM
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Default Re: Do drums age after 20-25 years?

Metal(cymbals and snares) and wood instruments both improve with age in my opinion. Wood is easier to define as the plies settle, dry, etc., and the same goes for solid shell snares. My 59 RK sounds superb next to a Craviotto that is nearly new in comparison. Brass and aluminum are perhaps more debatable. Cymbals tend to age, why wouldn't drums them?
If it's never been proven, then it would have to be left to more experienced drummers than my 30 years, but I say, without a doubt!
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Old 06-22-2015, 07:50 PM
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I think it's more to do with the wood used, how many plys and the bearing edges. Most modern drums are all maple with thicker shells and sharper bearing edges. I honestly don't think a 40 year old kit sounds any different now than it did when it was new. Go listen to old recordings of our now be-loved vintage drums when they were new.

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Old 06-22-2015, 08:15 PM
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My kit sounds better than new from 67
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Old 06-22-2015, 08:25 PM
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Check out this video with Roy Hanes from 1966, his Ludwig kit sounds very much like kits I've owned from the same time period.
Or this one with John Bonham....

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