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Wing style tighteners on mounted tom?

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I came across an old Slingerland drum kit. 20" bass drum, 13" mounted tom. The 13" is a concert tom style, and the tension rods have wings on them like the bass drum claw types would use.

Anyone seen this? It seems like I have, but I went through the catalogs on here, and can't find an example of this. The little old lady said her husband bought the kit around WWII. Any ideas?

Thanks!

-Kevin

1961 Ludwig Super Classic 22,13,16,18, WFL BR Snare WMP
1951-52 Slingerland Radio King Krupa Outfit 24,13,16 Champagne Sparkle
1960s/70s Polaris MIJ 20,12,16 Red Sparkle
2005 Gretsch Catalina Club WMP First Run
2008 Pearl Masters MCX 20,10,12,14f,16f & 14 Diamond Glitter
1999 Yamaha Stage Custom 22,10,12,14r,16f. Marina Green

...& many more...
Posted on 15 years ago
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Not so great pictures of what I'm talking about.

1961 Ludwig Super Classic 22,13,16,18, WFL BR Snare WMP
1951-52 Slingerland Radio King Krupa Outfit 24,13,16 Champagne Sparkle
1960s/70s Polaris MIJ 20,12,16 Red Sparkle
2005 Gretsch Catalina Club WMP First Run
2008 Pearl Masters MCX 20,10,12,14f,16f & 14 Diamond Glitter
1999 Yamaha Stage Custom 22,10,12,14r,16f. Marina Green

...& many more...
Posted on 15 years ago
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From nailfoxx

Not so great pictures of what I'm talking about.

Yeah I have a Radio king 9x13 duco tom with the bass drum t-rods on it

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 15 years ago
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Very cool drum. What year (approx.) is your drum? If you don't mind me asking.

1961 Ludwig Super Classic 22,13,16,18, WFL BR Snare WMP
1951-52 Slingerland Radio King Krupa Outfit 24,13,16 Champagne Sparkle
1960s/70s Polaris MIJ 20,12,16 Red Sparkle
2005 Gretsch Catalina Club WMP First Run
2008 Pearl Masters MCX 20,10,12,14f,16f & 14 Diamond Glitter
1999 Yamaha Stage Custom 22,10,12,14r,16f. Marina Green

...& many more...
Posted on 15 years ago
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It's very early 30's it has two single green pad Dodd muffler in it, it is virgin no tom mounts what so ever on this drum they are depicted in the rob cook slingerland book on page # 169, If I ever sell this tom someone will be parting with some serious cash!

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 15 years ago
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Slingerland also used the t-rods like that on the marching drums of the 1930-40s with wood rims...The r-rods were from 3 1/2" long to 5 1/2" long--like you would fine on the bass drums..Mikey

Posted on 15 years ago
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Kinda hard to tell from the small pictures, but... In the third shot, the bottom 2" or so of the mounted tom shell seems a bit darker. Is it possible it had a tacked-on resonant head?

Posted on 15 years ago
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I'm going to go look at the drums tonight, I wondered about the 'tack on' bottom head myself. I have a feeling that that's what is supposed to be there.

The bass drum has a mount drilled on it, does anyone know the odds as to whether this is stock, or added later??

1961 Ludwig Super Classic 22,13,16,18, WFL BR Snare WMP
1951-52 Slingerland Radio King Krupa Outfit 24,13,16 Champagne Sparkle
1960s/70s Polaris MIJ 20,12,16 Red Sparkle
2005 Gretsch Catalina Club WMP First Run
2008 Pearl Masters MCX 20,10,12,14f,16f & 14 Diamond Glitter
1999 Yamaha Stage Custom 22,10,12,14r,16f. Marina Green

...& many more...
Posted on 15 years ago
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From nailfoxx

The bass drum has a mount drilled on it, does anyone know the odds as to whether this is stock, or added later??

The mount that's supporting the tom in the pictures was added a few decades after the drum was built. I can't tell for certain what type it is from the pics, but the base of the mount looks a lot like one I have on a 1970s Ludwig drum.

Looking through some catalog scans, there are some drums in the 1941 catalog that show tacked-on tom resonant heads. No t-handled toms, though, so maybe we're looking at 1930's drums? (Or a custom order, or someone swapped the rods, or...)

Posted on 15 years ago
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I had a feeling about the mount, stinks that someone did that, but I'm sure there was a reason.

I know it's hard with these pictures, but would anyone like to give an opinion on value of the drums? Either as just bass and tom, or as a 3 piece? I told them I would try to find a value for them on the drums, but this exceeds my knowledge, and I hate guessing!

Thanks.

1961 Ludwig Super Classic 22,13,16,18, WFL BR Snare WMP
1951-52 Slingerland Radio King Krupa Outfit 24,13,16 Champagne Sparkle
1960s/70s Polaris MIJ 20,12,16 Red Sparkle
2005 Gretsch Catalina Club WMP First Run
2008 Pearl Masters MCX 20,10,12,14f,16f & 14 Diamond Glitter
1999 Yamaha Stage Custom 22,10,12,14r,16f. Marina Green

...& many more...
Posted on 15 years ago
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