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Why is the Zoomatic hated ? Can internals be modded? How to fix a bad one?

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I have an old Slingerland Spirit 6 1/2 x 14 steel snare that is my main go to snare right now and it just has the right sound.

It has a Zoomatic that is not stripped out and it seems to work fine.

Why is the Zoomatic so disliked, hated , etc ?

Can it be modded to prevent stripping ?

Can a stripped one be fixed ?

What can the owner of a good Zoomatic do to prevent damaging it ?

Thanks !

Posted on 8 years ago
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As long as you remember which way the knob works you'll be fine.*

*The only piece of advice my father ever gave me but it applies here

No more beards!
Posted on 8 years ago
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I don't know that the Zoomatic is hated really ... but I DO know that a lot of guys are clueless when it comes to HOW the Zoomatic should be set up and adjusted! That is the reason most of them break, and in many cases literally split apart! The Zoomatic has a "range" of adjustment on the tension of the wires, and one can't go past that!, but ... guys do all the time trying to get the wires tighter against the bottom reso head. The key .. for me anyway, as this has always allowed the Zoomatic to work flawlessly .. is to make sure you don't have an overly large amount of SLACK in the wires to start, which is why I prefer using cord and NOT the plastic strips. Slingerland supplied both, but plastic strips starting showing up increasingly as the years went by. I also back off the Zoomatic to "about" it's loosest setting, but in the "snares engaged" position when attaching the cord. I attach the wires with not a lot of slack and tie my square knots. Now ... you can gently tension the wires "in", and should reach your goal way before it's over tensioned, as again ... you took most all the slack OUT before you started! I have three Slingerland snare drums in the Buddy Rich Collection that all have the Zoomatic. Every one works flawlessly and have never broken. Each one of these models sounds great!, but the two Slingerland 4x14 Buddy Rich models get the nod over the Buddy Rich Artist. ALL of them deliver excellent snare response and sensitivity though, due in part to a properly set up Zoomatic! I'll attach a pic of each drum ...

Tommyp

Posted on 8 years ago
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I have owned several over the years with no problems.

As Tommy says...

Initial setup is the key and you want to find the centre of that adjustment range plus have limited stretch.. and NO slippage of the strings/straps.

For past couple of years I have used the "grossgrain" ribbon at both ends of the wires.. and these hold perfectly..

Cheers

John

(If you have already encountered a problem though this link is to the restoration posts)..

http://vintagedrumguide.com/zoomatic_strainer_repair.html

'77 Slingerland 51N,Super Rock 24,18,14,13.. COW 8,10 Concert toms
'69 Slingerland Hollywood Ace
'75 Rogers Dynasonic 6.5 x 14, 10 lug COB
'77-78 Slingerland 6.5 x 14, 10 lug COB
'78-79 Slingerland 5 1/4 x14 8 lug COB
'79 Biman 5 1/4, Acrolite
'82 Slingerland 5 1/4 x 14. Festival COS
'84 Tama MasterCraft Superstar 6.5 x 14, 10 lug Rosewood
'98 Slingerland (Music YO) 6" 10 Lug Maple.. NOS
Zildjian, Sabian , UFIP & Paiste mix.
Posted on 8 years ago
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longjohn and TommyP have pretty much covered it. Proper initial set-up yields good results. If stretch occurs do not over tighten, re-adjust cord/straps.

Posted on 8 years ago
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Those Slingerland Spirit snares are nice sleeper snares. I bought & sold a Spirit line kit, which was much like any off-shore kit (IMO), but I really liked the tone of the snare. It had something undeniable going on, a very usable voice.

1964 Ludwig Champagne Super Classic
1970 Ludwig Blue Oyster Super Classic
1977 Rogers Big R Londoner 5 ebony
1972/1978 Rogers Powertone/Big R mix ebony
60's Ludwig Supersensitive
Pearl B4514 COB snare ( the SC snare)
Pearl Firecracker
PJL WMP maple snare
Odds & Sods

Sabians, Paistes, Zildjians, Zyns, UFIPs, MIJs etc
Item may be subject to change!
Posted on 8 years ago
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From funkypoodle

Those Slingerland Spirit snares are nice sleeper snares. I bought & sold a Spirit line kit, which was much like any off-shore kit (IMO), but I really liked the tone of the snare. It had something undeniable going on, a very usable voice.

When I bought it on Ebay, I had no idea how nice it would sound, within a minute I knew it was a keeper. Heavy Taiwan steel with a musical ping.

Posted on 8 years ago
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I recently scored a Slingerland GK with a messed up Zoomatic. Thanks to that repair link that John posted above, I just added a spring to it, and it works wonderfully now!

65-73 Ludwig orphans 22/16/15/13/12 (silver sparkle rewrap)
1967 Ludwig Supraphonic 5 x 14
1976 Ludwig Acrolite 5 x 14
1966 Ludwig Pioneer 5 x 14
66-'67-ish Slingerland orphan project 20/13 (original champagne sparkling pearl)
Mid-60's Slingerland Gene Krupa COB Sound King 5 x 14
Mid-50's Slingerland tenor-to-floor tom resto/conversion project
Early 50's Slingerland Marcher resto project
Pork Pie 6.5 x 14 Big Black
Zildjians
Posted on 8 years ago
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