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Where Have All the Camcos Gone Last viewed: 2 days ago

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From johnnyringo

Those are all valid points, but, were Camco drums really so much better than Ludwig or Rogers to be so sought after now? Look, I'm just trying to make sense out of something that doesn't make sense. I don't believe something just because someone says it or because a certain drum sells for more than another. I'm just going by what I've learned from owning and playing kits from most of the big companies. Besides hardware, I see no big difference between any of them. And when I say difference, I don't mean to imply that they all sound the same, I mean, they all sound great, none better than the other. That's what I've learned after many years of playing vintage drums.

I think your on dodgy ground here with the factional fans of brands, which I don't buy into either. In all honesty examples of all these brands from that time can represent the worst and the best in each. It seems Rogers had a handle on Quality control. Ludwig is probably the most unreliable because of the Ringo factory rush. I know I would be hard pressed to pick one of any of these brands with the best example of their kits in front of me. They would all be magical. That's my idea of the ultimate vintage drum collection.

That said, I once did a Jazz gig on a Camco that a mate lent me and it was absolutely gorgeous to play.

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70's Ludwig Super Classic White Marine
60's Gretsch RB Champaigne Spark
70's Rogers Big R Black
90's Sonor Hilite (Red maple)
00's DW Collectors Broken Glass
00's DW Jazz Series Tangerine Glass
10's DW Collectors (Acrylic) Matt Black Wrap
10's PDP Concept Wood Hoop kit (Maple)
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Posted on 9 years ago
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Seems like it wasn't that long ago that Dolfan was the only guy on this site into Camco/GW. Like anything in the collecting realm, exposure ultimately leads to more people getting involved. The more people looking for the same thing drives up demand and more of these drums start turning up. I think they've reached their peak, with the exception of the occasional BOP size kit, in terms of value. Great sounding and playing drums!

Never play it the same way once.
Posted on 9 years ago
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A big part if Camcos lack of exposure was their representation by non star players. No super star drummers used them and although many great studio players did like and use them they were more sidemen then up front, I grew up in the 60s and 70 s and although there were a lot at drum companies out there Ludwig seemed to have the market share

Posted on 9 years ago
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Johnny,

This was the original question: "I'm wondering why you don't see as many Camco kits floating around compared to the other big American companies from the same time period of 1960-1975. I have two theories....

1 Camco didn't sell as well so not as many were produced.

2 Collectors horde them and don't sell or trade."

You were correct on both. Then others added factors that led to the outcome you theorized. So there is no mystery left.

Excellent examples of all the major (and some minor) manufacturer's products work great. They all have their special characteristics in sound, appearance and so forth. We have seen a run on each brand from time to time. Camco happens to be up right now.

Posted on 9 years ago
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Re: Where Have All the Camcos Gone

good question that I can not answer.

all I can say for sure is I can account for 1 set.

Wayne

Posted on 9 years ago
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From johnnyringo

Those are all valid points, but, were Camco drums really so much better than Ludwig or Rogers to be so sought after now? Look, I'm just trying to make sense out of something that doesn't make sense. I don't believe something just because someone says it or because a certain drum sells for more than another. I'm just going by what I've learned from owning and playing kits from most of the big companies. Besides hardware, I see no big difference between any of them. And when I say difference, I don't mean to imply that they all sound the same, I mean, they all sound great, none better than the other. That's what I've learned after many years of playing vintage drums.

I totally agree with you JR., I love my Trixon drums, but mainly because they were the first drums I owned when I was a small boy. I have gone through many kits over the years as well, including Camco. I owned one several years ago, very nice drums, reminded me of my Ludwig kit, but shotty hardware. Definitely not the greatest drums ever produced, I wouldn't even put them in the top five of my favorite drums.

Posted on 9 years ago
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