Yes that eBay one looks like a 4x14 downbeat to me.

I'm pretty sure that you could find a WFL 3x13 in mahogany. I've got a 3x13 with a WFL butt which came to me refinished and no badge. It was once duco, and duco isn't listed in the 1957 catalog either. The 1957 catalog just mentions pearls. But by the 1962 catalog it mentions "lacquer finishes". As usual there are always drums which don't appear in the catalog. There are always exceptions...

So mine was nicely refinished back to the maple with the hardware done in brass before I picked it up. A player's drum, but a pretty drum to my eye. And it sounds great. I put a transition badge on it:

[img]http://black.net.nz/drums/mkit1.JPG[/img]

Thanks for that Drumbum675. The eBay snare you linked to:

[img]http://black.net.nz/cym2012/jzcombo.jpg[/img]

At $300 that feels like a pretty good deal to me. The only thing which looks a little odd is the grommet on the badge. It seems more whitish than I'd expect, but that could be a trick of the light. Any of those who practice forensic detection of rebadging care to comment?

BTW, that's not a Downbeat (4x14 8 sideways lugs) it's a Jazz Combo (3x13 6 sideways lugs) like the one I posted in the photo above, except the recent eBay one is mahogany as requested by the original poster. So you've nailed the request to find out if a mahogany finish one exists.

I guess part of the problem is that many people call any snare smaller than 5" depth a piccolo, so that would cover a few Ludwig models from back then. But Ludwig didn't use the term piccolo at that time as far as I know. Others may know better.