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Vintage Ludwig deal - Need help!

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Yeah, everything ArchxAngel says. The outfit is referred to as Super Classic set, with a Supraphonic snare drum. Serial number indicates late 1967 or early 1968. They appear to be pretty grungy and a bit rusty. A good cleaning wouldn't hurt. I have a set just like them, same finish, same era, and it sounds great. The outfit will probably sound good when fixed up.

Thanks BEC. Cheers

Posted on 8 years ago
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That Supraphonic doesn't appear to be the aluminum version but rather the earlier chrome over brass. I don't see pitting on the exterior, which was common for the chrome over aluminum versions. My personal opinion on value would be 700-1000 US. Doesn't have extra holes,needs a cleaning and has some rust, but overall they look in to be in great condition.

18 Kits & 40+ snares..
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Posted on 8 years ago
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The kit is about a 68 Super Classics...worth about $700/800US..

The snare "doesn't" look like a COB...but a nice superphonic..$250.

Bop iT / Til U Drop iT.

ROGER's
1964 Cleveland,.18/14/12 in WMP
1966 Cleveland, 20/14/12 O'natural.
Fullerton,...20/16/13/12 Silver Glass

WFL
1957 B/R Super Classics In WMP

Snares..
Wood & COB Powertones,
Wood & COB Dynasonics,
57 Jazz Festival

Zildjian avedis cymbals.
40s/60s era.
Posted on 8 years ago
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From ARCHxANGEL

That Supraphonic doesn't appear to be the aluminum version but rather the earlier chrome over brass. I don't see pitting on the exterior, which was common for the chrome over aluminum versions. My personal opinion on value would be 700-1000 US. Doesn't have extra holes,needs a cleaning and has some rust, but overall they look in to be in great condition.

Hi Jay. I'm with you. Pay attention to the metal color behind the chrome.

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Posted on 8 years ago
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From RIMS n SKINS

The kit is about a 68 Super Classics...worth about $700/800US..The snare "doesn't" look like a COB...but a nice superphonic..$250.

Thanks for your time. Cheers

Posted on 8 years ago
#15
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The set needs some serious loving, but should be well worth it when done.

There's a spreadsheet with serial numbers (470,xxx - 501,xxx) in the 1st link below to my '67 WMP Downbeat that leads me to believe that the set is more likely from early 1969 (2nd link). Others on this forum are a lot more knowledgeable and have databases for dating via serial numbers. My kit is a one owner with receipts (in the linked photo album) so I can say with certainty that the set you're scoping with closely matched SN's (688,xxx +/-) was built later than the spring of 1967.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/30559980@N07/albums/72157629432619022

Serial Number database:

http://www.vintagedrumguide.com/serial_numbers.html

Posted on 8 years ago
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From btreat

The set needs some serious loving, but should be well worth it when done.There's a spreadsheet with serial numbers (470,xxx - 501,xxx) in the link below to my '67 WMP Downbeat that leads me to believe that the set is more likely from 1968. Others on this forum are a lot more knowledgeable and have databases for dating via serial numbers. My kit is a one owner with receipts (in the linked photo album) so I can say with certainty that the set you're scoping with closely matched SN's (688,xxx +/-) was built later than the spring of 1967.https://www.flickr.com/photos/30559980@N07/albums/72157629432619022

Nice job there! Thank you for your time. Cheers!

Posted on 8 years ago
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From JohnBonham

Thanks for your time. Cheers

Pick it up...if it's 7/8lbs...it's yr reg snare..

If it's more like 14lbs...it's COB.

Also check the hoops..I.e. NOB..? Does t have to be...but dos help.

Bop iT / Til U Drop iT.

ROGER's
1964 Cleveland,.18/14/12 in WMP
1966 Cleveland, 20/14/12 O'natural.
Fullerton,...20/16/13/12 Silver Glass

WFL
1957 B/R Super Classics In WMP

Snares..
Wood & COB Powertones,
Wood & COB Dynasonics,
57 Jazz Festival

Zildjian avedis cymbals.
40s/60s era.
Posted on 8 years ago
#18
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If a keystone badged Supra has a serial number it's almost 99.99% going to have a Ludalloy (aluminum) shell. I think the "brass" you're seeing is just some gunk on the shell, what I see on the lower portion is lots of tiny pits in the chrome, just like most (but not all) older aluminum shelled supras. A brass shell from that late in the decade would have a "B" stamp by the muffler and those are exceedingly rare.

The top hoop seems to have the same brass showing on it. Try a magnet on it, if it sticks then, whatever that is, it isn't brass.

Cool set, at the right price it would clean up real nice.

Posted on 8 years ago
#19
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Looks like a '69 super classic to me.

Ludalloy snare, natural interiors, nob tone control.

Awesome kit.

The main thing you will need to restore it is elbow grease.

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1963 Ludwig Downbeat Champagne Sparkle
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1966 Ludwig Super Classic Sparkling Silver Pearl
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1976 Ludwig Vistalite clear
1981 Gretsch SSB Gran Prix Rosewood
1987 Yamaha Turbo Tour Custom Mellow Yellow
1991 Pearl Export Ferrari Red
Posted on 8 years ago
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