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Ventless Slingerland FT sounds choked Last viewed: 2 hours ago

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Hello all! I have a question for my fellow Slingerland fans...especially those who own kits with no vent holes in the toms.

A friend asked not too long ago how my ventless Slingerlands sounded compared to other vintage kits that have vents. He said, "I would think they would sound choked without a vent hole." My response was that they sound good, but that I hadn't paid that close attention to it.

Well, I think I owe him a beating because now I notice that my '59 Slingerland FT sounds a little choked. It just doesn't breathe like my 16x16 Ludwig FT, or even my 14x14 Slingerland with a vent. No amount of tuning and tweaking of the batter and resonant heads opens it up. If I tune a little high, it's ringy and still choked. If I tune low, it's more boomy, but still choked. The odd thing is that the 13 doesn't sound so choked.

So, I'm considering poking a small hole in the reso head with a hot metal dowel or something. What do you folks think/recommend?

I have a gig tonight and will be using this kit, so I'll see how they sound in a different room before I doing anything. I just want to get some ideas now in case they sound dead tonight.

Many thanks in advance for any and all recommendations!

Lynn

I'm no guru, just a vintage drum junkie!

Psalm 150:5
1945 Slingerland RK sparkling gold pearl 26/13/14/16/early 50s 5.5x14 Krupa RK
1967 Slingerland green glass glitter 20/12/14/Hollywood Ace
60s Slingerland 24/13/16/7x14 project
24/13/16/7x14 project RKs
60s 5 & 6.5 Sound Kings
1942 7x14 WMP Krupa RK
1930s Slingerland Universal
1967 Ludwig Hollywood sparkling blue pearl 22/12/13/16
1967 Ludwig Supraphonic 400 & 402
1965 Ludwig Jazz Fest sparkling blue pearl
1923 Ludwig 5x14 NOB
Posted on 12 years ago
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Ahhh ya better drill a mess of holes in it all willy nilly. LoLoLoLo kidding sorry.......

What kind of rubber feet does the drum have? Reason I ask is before I bought a set of ISO feet John V suggested my 16" RK (no vent hole) sounded a bit choked. The ISO feet really opened up the sound. I have a coated Evan G2 batter and Evans Genera clear reso. I like the deep boomy sound so it's tuned on the low side. More of a warm sound than choked and resonates nicely.

I actually had the choked sound on my 60's 16" which has a vent hole and chalked it up to bad head choice. Those are clear EC2's with that black ring thing on the inside of the head. Next time I'll just get a G1 or G2 coated batter and call it good.

I do notice depending on where the drums are set up (office or basement) they do sound quite different with no changes in tuning. Acoustics there I'd guess. But those ISO feet really opened up the 16" in my case.

Hope you get it sorted out.

Glenn.

Not a guru just havin fun with some old dusty drums.
Posted on 12 years ago
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well if your tom is sounding choked, i would suggest loosening the noose a bit and letting him breath a lit'l, LoLoLoLoLaughing H

:) sorry, just kidding, but just had to throw in my :2Cents:

not realy sure what to do in your case, hope you can find a solution.

Stay Wiggly,
Robyn
Posted on 12 years ago
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It is the straight leg floor tom legs that are the culprit to your problem . Get either some sound isolation feet for the floor tom legs or just place 3" blocks of foam rubber underneath each tom foot, it will make a world of difference.

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 12 years ago
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I've run into this on each and every non-vented tom I've owned. I have used the Pearl Floor Tom Air Suspension Rubber Feet (Pack Of 3) and they do the trick. There are other makers, but these work great. Do a search, there are a few threads on here that discuss this. There are some fairly creative solutions offered ... make ya smile. Hope this helps.

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Posted on 12 years ago
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I agree with the above posts. Isolated rubber feet will help immensely. Straight legs are somewhat prone to this. Every room will sound different as well. The best way to tell if this is the problem, however, is hold the drum by the rim in mid air with one hand and play it with the other. Then set it on it's legs a d see what you think. You will probably shocked.

tnsquint
Very proud owner of a new Blaemire Snare 6.5 x 14 made by Jerry Jenkins "Drumjinx"
Posted on 12 years ago
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Thanks everyone! I've been told to try the isolation feet before, but I'm such a stickler for the original look that I didn't want to do it. I'd rather do that than burn a hole in my reso head.

Funny thing is...I just left the music store...and they have the feet. DOH Guess I'll have to go back before I go home.

Thanks again! You folks are amazing!

Lynn

I'm no guru, just a vintage drum junkie!

Psalm 150:5
1945 Slingerland RK sparkling gold pearl 26/13/14/16/early 50s 5.5x14 Krupa RK
1967 Slingerland green glass glitter 20/12/14/Hollywood Ace
60s Slingerland 24/13/16/7x14 project
24/13/16/7x14 project RKs
60s 5 & 6.5 Sound Kings
1942 7x14 WMP Krupa RK
1930s Slingerland Universal
1967 Ludwig Hollywood sparkling blue pearl 22/12/13/16
1967 Ludwig Supraphonic 400 & 402
1965 Ludwig Jazz Fest sparkling blue pearl
1923 Ludwig 5x14 NOB
Posted on 12 years ago
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I am sure I will run afoul of many on here regarding this kind of thing. I get the complete vintage vibe idea and respect that, but from my perspective, I would much rather have a kit that sounds as good as a vintage shell can sound and function as well as any modern kit. I like modern hardware and I like the particular advancements that have improved the sound and functionality of a drum kit. I use RIMS isolation mounts and isolated floor tom feet because they make drums sound better. I also like the fact that RIMS mounts allow me to use a single type of mounting hardware. I keep all the vintage stuff for photos or should I want to sell or trade. Otherwise, I always vote for a better sounding and more functional kit. But that is just me.

tnsquint
Very proud owner of a new Blaemire Snare 6.5 x 14 made by Jerry Jenkins "Drumjinx"
Posted on 12 years ago
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I use iso feet on all my ventless FTs be they Slingerland, Gretsch or SlingerLeedy. Makes all the difference in the world!

Never play it the same way once.
Posted on 12 years ago
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Non-drummers won't notice the feet and drummers will appreciate what you are trying to achieve..................

Kevin
Posted on 12 years ago
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