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Special Order Slingy?

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So, I picked up a 1970 Slingerland kit this week-end in Sparkling Black Pearl. The drums have 3-ply shells with the "chocolate milk-shake" interiors. All the drums have the 1970 black & silver Niles transition badge.

I assumed the kit was in a 12/13/16/22 configuration with the matching Sound King snare. However, when I got the kit home I realized that the rack toms are a 13 and 14 in lieu of a 12 and 13. The bass drum's got the dual spurs. I haven't been able to find a 1970 kit in this configuration in any of the Slingerland catalogues that I've checked. I'm guessing this particular kit might have been a special order, which would account for the larger toms. Or, did I miss something here? Thanks in advance for your time and your help.

Posted on 11 years ago
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That is what it looks like. I just got a big Slingerland kit last week that seems to be the same thing a special ordered kit.

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 11 years ago
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Hey OldSchool!

Yes, I do think it was a special order. Having 13" and 14" rack toms, plus dual bass drum spurs, was fairly rare for 1970. Slingerland wasn't showing catalog kits with toms of this size until around 1977. That kit was the Super Rock, but also came with a 24" bass drum and 18" floor tom. All-in-all, you've got a cool kit! Post more pictures when you can.

Mark

Posted on 11 years ago
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On another drum forum I have earned the reputation of being a contrarian on a few drum topics. One of those topics is the catalog-correct fixation that some people there (probably here, too) have concerning drum sets. If someone were to read all of the smaller print in every drum catalog I've ever seen, it is written in one or more places that other sizes of drums my be substituted for the drum set(s) pictured and given outfit names. Most of the new drum sets that I bought during the 1950's through the 1970's were not pictured in the catalogs the same way as the drums that I bought from a few Chicago area music stores. I ordered a Rogers set from a store in 1961 that was a standard configuration, but I ordered the 12-16-20 set with a matching Holiday snare that was mounted on the bass drum with a single tom mount and a disappearing cymbal mount. The drum set that I ordered was not shown just like mine, and given a name in any catalog. The same is true for a Camco six piece set that I ordered in 1964. Several other new drum sets that I bought off the display floors of Chicago area music stores were not pictured or given names in the catalogs of the major drum makers. As a manufacturer's rep for the last five years of American-made Rogers drums, I learned that the majority of music store buyers would point to a picture in a catalog, and say that they wanted to order that outfit on page 17 in the same color and also in another color. Some dealers would also special order drums that consumers wanted in non-catalog configurations. A few "gutsy" dealers would come up with their own ideas for configurations. I bought my drums from stores like that. Or, some (very few) stores would order a lot of drums in the same color from which they could "custom" configure a drum set for a consumer. I have never understood the hang up of vintage drum lovers to have the drum set pictured on page 33 of the 1966 (not the 1965 or 1967) Ludwig catalog that has an outfit name. Some Catalog slaves even want to get the same color as the drums on a particular catalog page. Many of the outlandishly huge drum sets in the catalogs were the creations of the marketing people to show off how bizarre someone could get with configuring a drum set. There were some impressionable consumers with big enough wallets who bought those over the top drum sets.

No matter how far you push the envelope, it is still stationery.
Posted on 11 years ago
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From leedybdp

On another drum forum I have earned the reputation of being a contrarian on a few drum topics. One of those topics is the catalog-correct fixation that some people there (probably here, too) have concerning drum sets. If someone were to read all of the smaller print in every drum catalog I've ever seen, it is written in one or more places that other sizes of drums my be substituted for the drum set(s) pictured and given outfit names. Most of the new drum sets that I bought during the 1950's through the 1970's were not pictured in the catalogs the same way as the drums that I bought from a few Chicago area music stores. I ordered a Rogers set from a store in 1961 that was a standard configuration, but I ordered the 12-16-20 set with a matching Holiday snare that was mounted on the baas drum with a single tom mount and a disappearing cymbal mount. The drum set that I ordered was not shown just like mine, and given a name in any catalog. The same is true for a Camco six piece set that I ordered in 1964. Several other new drum sets that I bought off the display floors of Chicago area music stores were not pictured or given names in the catalogs of the major drum makers. As a manufacturer's rep for the last five years of American-made Rogers drums, I learned that the majority of music store buyers would point to a picture in a catalog, and say that they wanted to order that outfit on page 17 in the same color and also in another color. Some dealers would also special order drums that consumers wanted in non-catalog configurations. A few "gutsy" dealers would come up with their own ideas for configurations. I bought my drums from stores like that. Or, some (very few) stores would order a lot of drums in the same color from which they could "custom" configure a drum set for a consumer. I have never understood the hang up of vintage drum lovers to have the drum set pictured on page 33 of the 1966 (not the 1965 or 1967) Ludwig catalog that has an outfit name. Some Catalog slaves even want to get the same color as the drums on a particular catalog page. Many of the outlandishly huge drum sets in the catalogs were the creations of the marketing people to show off how bizarre someone could get with configuring a drum set. There were some impressionable consumers with big enough wallets who bought those over the top drum sets.

I completely agree, I use the catalog configs as a very rough guide only.

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 11 years ago
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