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Snare identification: help

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Zawada;419595

Purdie: I haven't put the magnet, I will try to.

Thank you all, hmm, it seems that it is very mysterious snare, I am gonna explore the history of it deeper. I bought it 15 years ago with a whole Mapex M Fusion drumset, previous owner was using this snare as additional piccolo.

The reason I asked you to put a magnet to it is because I suspect that drum may be chrome over brass. There is no discernible pitting. Is it a heavy drum?

That 'could be' a quality drum. At least somebody seems to have gone out of their way to create a drum with a 'Ludwig-like' super-sensitive style strainer system. The hoops are probably Asian manufacture I've seen those hoops on MIJ kits. The offset lugs is something you find on Ludwig piccolos, again a copied design. This little drum had to be the top of somebody's line of products. I'm really starting to think it's Russian.

Do the magnet test. If it doesn't stick and it's a heavy drum, chances are it's COB. (Chrome Over Brass) The only way to know for sure is to take a pen knife and gently scrape a little metal from one of the lug holes. If the metal underneath is yellowish, not silver metallic - it's brass.

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 6 years ago
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Purdie Shuffle;419629

The reason I asked you to put a magnet to it is because I suspect that drum may be chrome over brass. There is no discernible pitting. Is it a heavy drum?

That 'could be' a quality drum. At least somebody seems to have gone out of their way to create a drum with a 'Ludwig-like' super-sensitive style strainer system. The hoops are probably Asian manufacture I've seen those hoops on MIJ kits. The offset lugs is something you find on Ludwig piccolos, again a copied design. This little drum had to be the top of somebody's line of products. I'm really starting to think it's Russian.

Do the magnet test. If it doesn't stick and it's a heavy drum, chances are it's COB. (Chrome Over Brass) The only way to know for sure is to take a pen knife and gently scrape a little metal from one of the lug holes. If the metal underneath is yellowish, not silver metallic - it's brass.

John

Father-42 should really get a look at this. He knows his Russian drum manufacturers.

1964 Ludwig Champagne Super Classic
1970 Ludwig Blue Oyster Super Classic
1977 Rogers Big R Londoner 5 ebony
1972/1978 Rogers Powertone/Big R mix ebony
60's Ludwig Supersensitive
Pearl B4514 COB snare ( the SC snare)
Pearl Firecracker
PJL WMP maple snare
Odds & Sods

Sabians, Paistes, Zildjians, Zyns, UFIPs, MIJs etc
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Posted on 6 years ago
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It's interesting snare and I love it but I don't remember any similar drums from old soviet drum factories or eastern EU makers.

It seems to me that is something from Italy,

Cheers,

George.

Posted on 6 years ago
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Father-42;420279

It's interesting snare and I love it but I don't remember any similar drums from old soviet drum factories or eastern EU makers.

It seems to me that is something from Italy,

Cheers,

George.

Italy was my first guess too. This thing really is a mystery drum.

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 6 years ago
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Probably all of the European producers used sloted tension rods in 60's and 70's.

Premier used 7/32 thread, Sonor used 1/4" thread and almost all East German and Amati from Czechoslovakia used 6 mm thread

Zawada check threads on your tension rods and we will be little closer

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Posted on 6 years ago
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Purdie: I did the magnet test and the magnet works with snare. And I think it is not so heavy stuff.

Dule: what do you mean by checking the threads - the size? I am attaching some additional photos, might be helpful..

Posted on 6 years ago
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If the magnet sticks... it's likely a steel shell. Steel is heavier than aluminum and it would 'feel' heavier.

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 6 years ago
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