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Sling/Leedy 3 Point, Sling Rapid, Lud P83 Strainer Problems

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Hey all,

I just got an awesome 1940 Leedy Broadway Standard snare (6.5x14 with a white Duco finish). It has an Aquarian Med American Vintage head on it and the drum absolutely barks at lower tensions. I love it...maybe as much as my 40's 7x14 RK. I can't wait to get the Puresound extended wires for it. It is going to be even MORE amazing.

I have had one serious problem with it so far though: The Strainer. I seem to have this problem with a lot of my strainers (namely the Slingerland Rapid and the Ludwig P83...but sometimes even with my newer Dunnett strainer).

When I am playing a show or rehearsing, sometimes I can't even make it through a song before the tension knob loosens up and the snares are near off. It sucks because I love the sound of these old drums, but the hassle of having to tighten up the snares (sometimes multiple times in one song) is just too much to justify using them on most high-pressure gigs.

Does anyone have a solution to this problem? Do I just have them set up wrong? They seem like some of the simplest strainers out there. I don't know how else I could set them up to solve this prob other than to tape them in place or something?

Any help is much appreciated as always!

-Adam

Posted on 14 years ago
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The Slingerland rapids had a rubber washer on the tension knob that would rub against the back plate to help keep that problem from happening.

http://www.vintagedrumguide.com/drcjw/article_5_strainers_rapid-4.html

Those usually wore down and fell off. I once put a rubber washer (from the hardware store) on one to replace the worn one, and it worked well.

Posted on 14 years ago
#2
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Thanks for the response Rich.

My Rapids definitely have the washers on them...but they don't seem to help.

The 3pt strainers don't have anything of the sort, and sure don't hold their tension very well. Any suggestions?

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Posted on 14 years ago
#3
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Adam, I use all three strainer system, and I don't have that problem at all, are your snare wires loose from the very beginning when you play what tension level do you play at loose, medium or tight?

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 14 years ago
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I play them loose ish to med I would say. Not super loose, but definitely not tight. It just seems like over the course of a few songs (sometimes just one song) they are super loose and need to be re-tightened. I dont know what is wrong with me! They just seem like simple designs that have nothing preventing them from loosening. Does anyone else have this problem?

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Posted on 14 years ago
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Slingerland is notorious for horrible strainer design and function. I have a large Slingerland collection and have trouble with the rapid strainers constantly. For your three point strainer Bentleys' drum shop makes a replacement part for $50. You could try this or you could send your strainers to JP2 Creations and have Jim Petty replace the gum rubber thus making the original work as it was designed to.

Posted on 14 years ago
#6
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[SIZE="6"]Real Answer!![/SIZE]

[SIZE="4"]I learned this trick from a drum builder. Get yourself Thread Locker by Locktite or Superglue... the BLUE KIND. NOT THE RED STUFF. A few drops in the threads will solve it. You may need 2 applications. It makes the threads stop slipping, but you can still turn it ok.[/SIZE]

I have 3 slingerlands that need it.

Posted on 14 years ago
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That sounds awesome, but is that going to destroy any collectable value on these drums?

Thanks!

Adam

Posted on 14 years ago
#8
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No.. thread locker is invisible once dry, and can be cleaned off with steel wool. Just be sure it's the BLUE stuff. and try one drop... get it in the threads, and let it dry overnight.. then try it out... do another drop if needed.

Posted on 14 years ago
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