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Slingerland spurs with no tip?

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I got some Slingerland bass drum "spurs" from feeBay today. They do NOT have a spike. Is this right? They sure don't seem to be. They aren't like my others from 1958, which I know were a smaller diameter than later spurs, but these are 15" - 3 inches longer than my others and about 2 inches shorter than FT legs. I don't want to jump the gun and tell the guy he's wrong if he's not.

Please help!

Thanks!

I'm no guru, just a vintage drum junkie!

Psalm 150:5
1945 Slingerland RK sparkling gold pearl 26/13/14/16/early 50s 5.5x14 Krupa RK
1967 Slingerland green glass glitter 20/12/14/Hollywood Ace
60s Slingerland 24/13/16/7x14 project
24/13/16/7x14 project RKs
60s 5 & 6.5 Sound Kings
1942 7x14 WMP Krupa RK
1930s Slingerland Universal
1967 Ludwig Hollywood sparkling blue pearl 22/12/13/16
1967 Ludwig Supraphonic 400 & 402
1965 Ludwig Jazz Fest sparkling blue pearl
1923 Ludwig 5x14 NOB
Posted on 13 years ago
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That's what I'm thinking, but the legs on my 1959 FT are 17" - 2 inches longer. The spurs for my 1958 BD are 12", like yours, and it's a 22". I bought these to use with my "new" circa '67 BD, which is a 20". I think I need to contact him and try to return them for a refund.

I'm no guru, just a vintage drum junkie!

Psalm 150:5
1945 Slingerland RK sparkling gold pearl 26/13/14/16/early 50s 5.5x14 Krupa RK
1967 Slingerland green glass glitter 20/12/14/Hollywood Ace
60s Slingerland 24/13/16/7x14 project
24/13/16/7x14 project RKs
60s 5 & 6.5 Sound Kings
1942 7x14 WMP Krupa RK
1930s Slingerland Universal
1967 Ludwig Hollywood sparkling blue pearl 22/12/13/16
1967 Ludwig Supraphonic 400 & 402
1965 Ludwig Jazz Fest sparkling blue pearl
1923 Ludwig 5x14 NOB
Posted on 13 years ago
#2
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Shoot man, I'd keep them if you got a decent price.

They are certainly old, being the straight leg variety.

You'll be needing them next year for something, wait and see.....

Or maybe someone around here has a need for them?

Kevin
Posted on 13 years ago
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Many thanks for the help! It IS appreciated!

From Fuse

They may be tom legs from a brand other than Slingerland, so they might be shorter. At any rate, they don't sound like bass spurs. Good luck with the seller!

That could be the case. Not sure which brand, though.

From kevins

Shoot man, I'd keep them if you got a decent price.They are certainly old, being the straight leg variety.You'll be needing them next year for something, wait and see.....Or maybe someone around here has a need for them?

Well, I paid right at $46 to get them to my door. They are basically in mint condition and the rubber tips are nice too - and I can tell that the rubber is not new, but no idea how old...could be as little as 10 years or as much as 40, but there's no telling on that. :confused:

And you're probably right, with my new "addiction" to vintage stuff, I'll probably need them at some point. ;) I just really need spurs for my "new" 20" BD.

I'm no guru, just a vintage drum junkie!

Psalm 150:5
1945 Slingerland RK sparkling gold pearl 26/13/14/16/early 50s 5.5x14 Krupa RK
1967 Slingerland green glass glitter 20/12/14/Hollywood Ace
60s Slingerland 24/13/16/7x14 project
24/13/16/7x14 project RKs
60s 5 & 6.5 Sound Kings
1942 7x14 WMP Krupa RK
1930s Slingerland Universal
1967 Ludwig Hollywood sparkling blue pearl 22/12/13/16
1967 Ludwig Supraphonic 400 & 402
1965 Ludwig Jazz Fest sparkling blue pearl
1923 Ludwig 5x14 NOB
Posted on 13 years ago
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He's agreed to accept a return. They were listed as "60s Slingerland bass drum legs." In his response agreeing to accept the return, he said that they were "stock originals...off a 22x14 black and silver badged bass drum." I attached a link to the Slingerland badge article on VDG, explaining that black/silver badges didn't show up until 1970. I asked him to agree to refund the $9.90 shipping fee as well. I agreed to pay return shipping - though I shouldn't have to do that - but I don't feel I should be responsible to pay $20 round trip shipping to find out they were listed incorrectly, even if it was unintentional.

From Fuse

Good luck, and if you need a picture of the actual spurs for reference, let me know. I can post one.

Are yours 12" long and 3/8" in diameter with a spike and indention for a "C" clip at the same end? Feel free to post a pic if you'd like, but I think the only difference between 60s and my late 50s spurs is that the late 50s are 5/16" diameter. Please don't hesitate to correct me if there are more differences.

Oh yeah, I'll be calling Vinny in the hopes that he has some. I need to find out if he has an original 20" Slingerland bass drum hoop also. Vinny's a great guy and a pleasure to deal with! I should have called him in the first place.

Thanks again to everyone for the helpful information!

I'm no guru, just a vintage drum junkie!

Psalm 150:5
1945 Slingerland RK sparkling gold pearl 26/13/14/16/early 50s 5.5x14 Krupa RK
1967 Slingerland green glass glitter 20/12/14/Hollywood Ace
60s Slingerland 24/13/16/7x14 project
24/13/16/7x14 project RKs
60s 5 & 6.5 Sound Kings
1942 7x14 WMP Krupa RK
1930s Slingerland Universal
1967 Ludwig Hollywood sparkling blue pearl 22/12/13/16
1967 Ludwig Supraphonic 400 & 402
1965 Ludwig Jazz Fest sparkling blue pearl
1923 Ludwig 5x14 NOB
Posted on 13 years ago
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Fuse,

The rubber feet might be on the end that's inside the bass drum.

That's where I park mine to keep from misplacing the damn things.

I lost a car once for two days, so you can imagine my problems with small parts..... lol ...:D

Kevin
Posted on 13 years ago
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From Fuse

True, but then you couldn't take the spurs off without taking off one of the heads. The Slingerland spurs are made with a small indentation at the floor end that holds a C ring in place. The C ring prevents you from pushing the spurs all the way into the drum. So, if you want to take the spurs off, you just pull them all the way out. A rubber foot on the inside end would defeat the whole purpose of having them made to work the way they do.At any rate, the things that SlingerLynn is talking about are tom legs that this seller is trying to pass off as bass spurs.

I'm saying that I do that to keep track of the little suckers, I didn't say that is how the folks at Slingerland intended it to be. I'm pretty sure that is what I said.....

I got plenty of aftermarket feet to use if I need to, and my original ones are safe where I parked em.

And I did read what the topic of this thread is, and oops, this discussion took an expanded journey..... I'd say sorry about that, but I'm not.

It's a damn discussion, yo......

Since you pointed out the obvious, just when would you need to pull out the bass legs anyhow?

Kevin
Posted on 13 years ago
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From Fuse

FWIW, the same seller has yet another set of "mint Slingerland bass legs right off a 1960s Slingerland bass" for sale on ebay right now. Gee, they look exactly the same as the ones he sold you.So, yeah, this seller is just trying to take people to the cleaners. Good for you for asking for a refund. I hope the next bidder he cheats (and there is one bid right now) does the same thing.

You're right, I saw that. And to tell on myself, he did say in both listings that they are 15" long. I don't know how I missed that, but I feel like an idiot now for it. I looked at several 70s kits in the gallery as well and they are all spiked. What bass drum leg, spur, or whatever you wish to call it isn't spiked? I'm only somewhat familiar with vintage Ludwig and Gretsch drums and I'd say pretty familiar with Slingerland now, but I believe a bass drum leg or spur of any brand would be spiked. Am I wrong?

I agree that they must be FT legs. Maybe somebody stuck them in a Slingerland BD and that's where he found them, but they aren't Slingerland spurs and they sure aren't 60s. I personally don't think he intentionally listed them incorrectly - especially after noticing he did mention the length - he's been real nice about the whole deal. This will teach me to read listings a little more carefully and not get giddy when I see something I need pop up and just buy it.

From kevins

I lost a car once for two days, so you can imagine my problems with small parts..... lol ...:D

That's too funny! Have you ever been looking for your glasses and suddenly realized you were seeing a lot clearer than you normally would without your glasses? I have. Laughing H

I'm no guru, just a vintage drum junkie!

Psalm 150:5
1945 Slingerland RK sparkling gold pearl 26/13/14/16/early 50s 5.5x14 Krupa RK
1967 Slingerland green glass glitter 20/12/14/Hollywood Ace
60s Slingerland 24/13/16/7x14 project
24/13/16/7x14 project RKs
60s 5 & 6.5 Sound Kings
1942 7x14 WMP Krupa RK
1930s Slingerland Universal
1967 Ludwig Hollywood sparkling blue pearl 22/12/13/16
1967 Ludwig Supraphonic 400 & 402
1965 Ludwig Jazz Fest sparkling blue pearl
1923 Ludwig 5x14 NOB
Posted on 13 years ago
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From SlingerLynn

That's too funny! Have you ever been looking for your glasses and suddenly realized you were seeing a lot clearer than you normally would without your glasses? I have. Laughing H

Yep, and I turned on the headlamps the other evening and complained that they weren't working, and Anita smiles at me like she does, mmm:), and reminds me I still have my sunglasses on.......:o:oDOHDOH

Kevin
Posted on 13 years ago
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