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Seven Line Dyna-Sonic Snare Drums

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1961, #1171 Gretsch shell, the 171st badged Dyna-Sonic

1963, #2811 Possibly lowest badged Beavertail from Covington.

1964, #3689 Solid drum from the very heart and height of the Sixties.

1967, #10407, Close to the end of the Seven Line Run.

[IMG]http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu169/ThePloughman/Snare%20Drums/DSCN1735_zps923adff0.jpg[/IMG]

Rogers Drums Big R era 1975-1984 Dating Guide.
http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=24048
Posted on 10 years ago
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Very nice transition, Jack. That 1171 looks pristine!

Hugh

1966 Rogers Holidays 8x12, 9x13, 16x16, 14x20, 14x22, with matching 5x14 Powertone in BDP
1967 Rogers Dynasonic in COB
Posted on 10 years ago
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Looking for Lugs. Trying a new lug fix.

Rogers Drums Big R era 1975-1984 Dating Guide.
http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=24048
Posted on 10 years ago
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Nice family Jack~! I like the new B&B dyna you have. It's been interesting to see your ideas on lug fixes too. You mention 10407 is close to the end of the seven line shell. Do you know about what number the new 5 line shell started? As always thanks for the pictures and info!

Glenn.

Not a guru just havin fun with some old dusty drums.
Posted on 10 years ago
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Beautiful Timeline Jack! Congrats!

You and your collection give us always new info and a better approach to the "R" family

Thanks!


Ludwig '67 Classic B.D.P.
Ludwig '79 Classic Pro-beat
C. A. F. '72 New Sonic "The Argentinean Ludwig"
A bunch of Ludwig snares..... + Dyna & P.Tone.

and always trying to recover some orphan drums!!
Posted on 10 years ago
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I went to Fresno today to do about 45 minutes work...... a total almost 6 hour drive there and back.... So... that meant over an hour in Bentleys Drum Shop. Greatest place on the west coast. Dana Bentley is the coolest store owner I have ever met. Talked with him on the lug fix, and brought back a couple B&B lugs.... both medium, one for snare and one for floor tom. Both are broken. I am going to do the new bracket fix on both. The tom lug is completely broken out at the bottom because the top tab failed. My plan is to heat it up, bring it back together, use the fiberglass Tom suggested for that portion of the lug, and make the bracket insert. Both of these will be sent back to Dana in a couple weeks.

I absolutely love that store.

I am not sure of the termination point on the Seven Line shells, but it is somewhere about 11,000. I know low 12,000 are five ply shells.

The solid epoxy method is bullet proof. However, it is a solid lug, and while I was lucky enough on alignment to get everything straight, I do not like the tune up. I want a method that uses the original fasteners, and leaves the swivel nut fully functional. I also want one that will work for a high percentage of lugs with moderate to severe damage. And I want something that can be reasonably done by the average handy guy without paying 15 bucks a lug to do the job. I know the Petty lugs have been on the market for a while, but I seriously doubt that many have sold at the high price per lug. And quite frankly, I think the tab set up sucks major butt. Steel or Brass, I see it as a fail point, especially on tom lugs. Maybe I am wrong. But I do not see the basic design flaw as fixed, just a material change to make it better.

I am rather new to the B&B lug scene. I had no interest prior to buying 1171. I paid no attention to things with B&B lugs. That has changed.

Rogers Drums Big R era 1975-1984 Dating Guide.
http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=24048
Posted on 10 years ago
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Hi Jack. I hope the fiberglass works well. I don't see a reason why it wouldn't. I really fell for the B&B lugs. I really like the look of them. I think by the time this kit is done I'll be over them. They are cool and all just the beavertail is a much more solid product. Yes the JP lugs are nice but way too spendy. I would need 36 of them for the bass and floor a bit out of budget. I have enough to now finish the kit so it's getting there.

Also thanks for the dyna info. I picked up one recently. My first and by the serial looks like it was towards the beginning of the 5 line shells possibly? I used Tommy P's setup guide (which is brilliant) and she really sings!! Here's a pic of the serial. #10971

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Glenn.

Not a guru just havin fun with some old dusty drums.
Posted on 10 years ago
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That would make yours one of the earliest. Great score.

On the lugs...... do you have some snare or medium 1 5/8 mount center rejects that aren't completely destroyed?

Rogers Drums Big R era 1975-1984 Dating Guide.
http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=24048
Posted on 10 years ago
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Hi Jack Thanks for the dyna info!

Sending you a PM about lugs........

Glenn.

Not a guru just havin fun with some old dusty drums.
Posted on 10 years ago
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Glenn,congrats on getting your Dyna and glad you used Tommy P`s set-up guide to bring it in tune with itself.One of those great tags will look just super on it too.Enjoy that great snare!

Jack,my 7 line Dyna`s serial # is 8103 and i bought it new in 67`.Could it even be a 66` model with that serial # ?Thanks.

Wayne

1967 Rogers Cleveland Champagne Sparkle
20,16,13,13.
1967/68 Rogers Dayton Champagne Sparkle
20,16,13,13.
1966 Rogers cob 7 Line Dynasonic Snare.
1967 Rogers "Humberto Morales" Timbales.
1980 Ludwig B/O badge 14x 6.5 Black Beauty Snare.
1980 Ludwig B/O badge Red Cortex
22,22,18,16,15,14,13.
1988 Sonor "Horst Link" HLD 590 14x8 Bronze Snare
Posted on 10 years ago
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