thank you for all of your input, your a bunch of swell guys and i really like it here and (it's good to laugh it makes these moments go easier....)
this is a ware house of knowledge and I'm glad to be a part of it.
I'm still in a bind trying to figure this color thing out, as I'm comparing two same year Ludwig drums stored in cases for years(different sets), 1 is definitely silver sparkle and the other is a silver glassy gold color flake or pearl? I guess you could say there similar but not a match by any means. This is my opinion but it mite not mean nut, I'm saying there were 2 champagne colors a pink and a regular champagne !!