I am restoring some neglected Ludwig Classic snares and this one is different than a P-34 butt, and is incompatible with a L1110 or a L1108 snare assembly. (See photos)
Is this an obsolete type Ludwig snare butt?
What's the P number for this ?
Will a P-34 be a drop in replacement (after drilling third hole) ??
Does Ludwig still offer a replacement snare assembly to fit this butt, or do I have to upgrade to P-34 + L1110 or L1108 ?
Thanks !
Is this the one you need? My parts catalog shows it to be a P-33.
I'm not sure what the difference is between a P-33 and a P-34, but yours looks like it will accept a L 1110 or L1108
If you want that kinda butt its gonna cost you , dig ?
I managed to get a deal.
If you want that kinda butt its gonna cost you , dig ?I managed to get a deal.
Great point !
I am restoring some neglected Ludwig Classic snares and this one is different than a P-34 butt, and is incompatible with a L1110 or a L1108 snare assembly. (See photos)Is this an obsolete type Ludwig snare butt? What's the P number for this ?Will a P-34 be a drop in replacement (after drilling third hole) ??Does Ludwig still offer a replacement snare assembly to fit this butt, or do I have to upgrade to P-34 + L1110 or L1108 ?Thanks !
I have seen the replacement snares offered for sale at some of the larger/well known music retailers.
Looking through the early Ludwig catalogs the only butt offered is the "P-32 for all strainers"
In the '71 catalog in the marching drum section there is mention of the "chrome plated P-33 extended snare butt, with die cast housing, permits individual adjustment of all snare strands."
In '73 we get to see an image of it in the catalog: Image #1
By 1980 it was replaced by the P-34: Image #2
So I guess you could say the P-33 was the first casting for the extended snares, to be replaced by the P-34 with the third hole for some additional stability with the 3rd fastener: Image #3
Did the two lateral holes line up with your new P-34?
I have seen the replacement snares offered for sale at some of the larger/well known music retailers.Looking through the early Ludwig catalogs the only butt offered is the "P-32 for all strainers" In the '71 catalog in the marching drum section there is mention of the "chrome plated P-33 extended snare butt, with die cast housing, permits individual adjustment of all snare strands." In '73 we get to see an image of it in the catalog: Image #1By 1980 it was replaced by the P-34: Image #2So I guess you could say the P-33 was the first casting for the extended snares, to be replaced by the P-34 with the third hole for some additional stability with the 3rd fastener: Image #3Did the two lateral holes line up with your new P-34?
YES !
New butt has arrived, now all I have to do is drill the third hole.
Nice that I have all the right hardware, too by going with a new one.
Keep that great Ludwig feeling with Genuine Ludwig Parts !Cool Dude
Anybody need a P-33 ?
I was thinking maybe someone might be wanting to do a restoration and might not want to drill any new holes.
I don't have that option, the p-34 needs all three attachment points.
