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New ludwig legacy mahogany badge Last viewed: 1 hour ago

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I was just watching a Youtube video from the Chicago music exchange page, and listened to the new Ludwig Legacy Mahogany..The drums sound fantastic, although i can't say much about the little details, in this case, the badge.. You would think that Ludwig's flagship drum line would have the utmost standard in their craftsmanship and superb detailing..Not in this case..

The badge looks terribly cheap and looks like they were made overseas and then assembled in the U.S.. The logo is also laser engraved or inked, rather than embossed like the originals.. Shame on Ludwig for doing that..

If anyone's gonna drop 3-6 K on a kit with detailing like that, i'd rather buy an original for less than that, with the superb craftsmanship that went into it, from an era where people actually took the time and took pride in their work.. Now everything's mechanized, not only taking away from Ludwig's reputation, but putting doubt in their manufacturing process.. Ludwig loses big time on this..

Just check out the close up photos of the badge and see for yourself..

My jaw dropped when i noticed how cheapo they looked..Now compare it with a pic of the original from vintage drum guide..

Night and day..

http://www.chicagomusicexchange.com/products/ludwig-legacy-mahogany-12-14-20-downbeat-3pc-kit-jumbo-black-pearl

http://www.vintagedrumguide.com/images/badges/ludwig/keystone_badge_pre_serial_number_large.jpg

Posted on 9 years ago
#1
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I don't know. I have that small keystone badge on my Copperphonic and I think it looks fine. Not as nice as the originals, true, but still an improvement over the large keystone and some of the other badges they've used of late.

In reality, with the drum in your hands, your naked eye can't really discern the same sort of detail as you can see in that blown up image. Most people who ever see a drum will never see the badge closer than a few feet. Not an excuse to allow for shoddy workmanship but there is a point of diminishing returns and there's not really much point in over engineering a 1" tall badge beyond a certain level of fit and finish.

All in the eye of the beholder I guess.

Posted on 9 years ago
#2
Posts: 3467 Threads: 116

Not real keen on the idea of Plastic Claws & Spurs ...

Sound nice though..

Cheers

John

'77 Slingerland 51N,Super Rock 24,18,14,13.. COW 8,10 Concert toms
'69 Slingerland Hollywood Ace
'75 Rogers Dynasonic 6.5 x 14, 10 lug COB
'77-78 Slingerland 6.5 x 14, 10 lug COB
'78-79 Slingerland 5 1/4 x14 8 lug COB
'79 Biman 5 1/4, Acrolite
'82 Slingerland 5 1/4 x 14. Festival COS
'84 Tama MasterCraft Superstar 6.5 x 14, 10 lug Rosewood
'98 Slingerland (Music YO) 6" 10 Lug Maple.. NOS
Zildjian, Sabian , UFIP & Paiste mix.
Posted on 9 years ago
#3
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From K.O.

I don't know. I have that small keystone badge on my Copperphonic and I think it looks fine. Not as nice as the originals, true, but still an improvement over the large keystone and some of the other badges they've used of late.In reality, with the drum in your hands, your naked eye can't really discern the same sort of detail as you can see in that blown up image. Most people who ever see a drum will never see the badge closer than a few feet. Not an excuse to allow for shoddy workmanship but there is a point of diminishing returns and there's not really much point in over engineering a 1" tall badge beyond a certain level of fit and finish. All in the eye of the beholder I guess.

Fair enough. I see your point, and although not the same thing, but imagine buying a Ferrari and having the Stallion logo made of cheap plastic or even painted on.. Wouldn't look that good.. But , just like every major company, they have to make a profit, and these days, that means outsourcing to Asia..

Posted on 9 years ago
#4
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From longjohn

Not real keen on the idea of Plastic Claws & Spurs ... Sound nice though..CheersJohn

John--The spurs are the original gull wing design made of chrome over steel with rubber feet, and the claws are still classic Ludwig claws and not plastic, with rubber washers to keep from scuffing the hoops..

Posted on 9 years ago
#5
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Yeah had another listen... thought he said plastic... time to get the ears cleaned out...

I agree on the badge though..

Cheers

John

'77 Slingerland 51N,Super Rock 24,18,14,13.. COW 8,10 Concert toms
'69 Slingerland Hollywood Ace
'75 Rogers Dynasonic 6.5 x 14, 10 lug COB
'77-78 Slingerland 6.5 x 14, 10 lug COB
'78-79 Slingerland 5 1/4 x14 8 lug COB
'79 Biman 5 1/4, Acrolite
'82 Slingerland 5 1/4 x 14. Festival COS
'84 Tama MasterCraft Superstar 6.5 x 14, 10 lug Rosewood
'98 Slingerland (Music YO) 6" 10 Lug Maple.. NOS
Zildjian, Sabian , UFIP & Paiste mix.
Posted on 9 years ago
#6
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From longjohn

Yeah had another listen... thought he said plastic... time to get the ears cleaned out...I agree on the badge though..CheersJohn

Lol !..Sometimes i feel like i need a good rinse on the old ear drums ;)

pun intended ! ;)

Posted on 9 years ago
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