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I'm talking to a seller about an old Ludwig kick. I don't recall seeing this kind of internal mount before and I was wondering if someone could tell me more about it. Particularly what time period Ludwig was installing these and if they're at all common. The drum has no tom or cymbal mount and it had clip-on spurs. Keystone badge but I can't make out from the photo what era it might be.

The photos are cropped because I felt like the seller might not appreciate me putting too much of his drum out there and looking for info on it without first asking him. I just don't want to waste his time asking for a history lesson. Hope this isn't a forum faux pas.

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Zach

Currently looking for a 3-ply 24x14 Ludwig in champagne sparkle w/rail consolette and cymbal mount!
Posted on 9 years ago
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Close up of the external mount.

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Zach

Currently looking for a 3-ply 24x14 Ludwig in champagne sparkle w/rail consolette and cymbal mount!
Posted on 9 years ago
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I'm gonna say a Wfl/Ludwig ..late 40s to very early 50s..

Bop iT / Til U Drop iT.

ROGER's
1964 Cleveland,.18/14/12 in WMP
1966 Cleveland, 20/14/12 O'natural.
Fullerton,...20/16/13/12 Silver Glass

WFL
1957 B/R Super Classics In WMP

Snares..
Wood & COB Powertones,
Wood & COB Dynasonics,
57 Jazz Festival

Zildjian avedis cymbals.
40s/60s era.
Posted on 9 years ago
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Thanks, Rims. That's kind of what I was thinking, but he said it's a '60s. Not sure where he got his date from.

Zach

Currently looking for a 3-ply 24x14 Ludwig in champagne sparkle w/rail consolette and cymbal mount!
Posted on 9 years ago
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Here's a look at the badge.

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Zach

Currently looking for a 3-ply 24x14 Ludwig in champagne sparkle w/rail consolette and cymbal mount!
Posted on 9 years ago
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After zooming in it looks like a pre-serial number, right? Guess that's where he's getting his date.

Zach

Currently looking for a 3-ply 24x14 Ludwig in champagne sparkle w/rail consolette and cymbal mount!
Posted on 9 years ago
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Anyone else have any insight?

Zach

Currently looking for a 3-ply 24x14 Ludwig in champagne sparkle w/rail consolette and cymbal mount!
Posted on 9 years ago
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Badge and most of the drum does like a early 60's pre serial model. The finish on that added piece doesn't match the rest of the hardware. So, I would guess that it was simply added to the drum.

Mike

Posted on 9 years ago
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Ah, that hadn't occurred to me. I wonder if it was an after-market add on or if there were already holes on the drum that could accommodate it.

If I bought this drum, would it be blasphemy to drill holes for a rail consolette and cymbal mount?

Zach

Currently looking for a 3-ply 24x14 Ludwig in champagne sparkle w/rail consolette and cymbal mount!
Posted on 9 years ago
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From TheElectricCompany

Ah, that hadn't occurred to me. I wonder if it was an after-market add on or if there were already holes on the drum that could accommodate it. If I bought this drum, would it be blasphemy to drill holes for a rail consolette and cymbal mount?

If you buy it, it's your drum and you can do a whatever you want. I personally wouldn't drill it, and I suspect from your comment it appears you're not 100% confident drilling would be a good idea. Not sure of the size of the drum, but if it's a 14x22 Superclassic, there were many WFL and '60s Ludwigs sets made in white marine pearl with a rail mount and cymbal stand bracket, not to mention drilled spurs, either telescoping it folding. If it were me, I would probably keep looking until I found what I wanted, which in my case ended up being a 1961/1962 3 piece Ludwig Superclassic 13/16/22 set in WMP.. But then, you're not me.

Mark
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Posted on 9 years ago
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