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Ludwig COB question

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I found what I believe to be an old Ludwig 5x14 COB super. It's keystone badge and no serial. It's pretty heavy. No pitting. But it has baseball bat muffler. Can this be?

Posted on 12 years ago
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From AtlantaDrumGuy

I found what I believe to be an old Ludwig 5x14 COB super. It's keystone badge and no serial. It's pretty heavy. No pitting. But it has baseball bat muffler. Can this be?

They had baseball bat mufflers starting in 1962. Should have a crimped snare bed. Got any pics? Check out this link, lots of good info.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CCgQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.drummerworld.com%2Fforums%2Fattachment.php%3Fattachmentid%3D27918%26d%3D...&ei=A4INT6fHPKrd0QGG55CCBg&usg=AFQjCNHQMhdwU2BlphqJZV0-ZAWRRzxpEA

"Failing to prepare, is preparing to fail". John Wooden

Blaemire / Jenkins-Martin drums.

http://www.jenkinsmartindrums.com/
Posted on 12 years ago
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Weight can be deceiving unless it is just the shell. Ludwig made a pre-serial Ludaloy shelled supra, also with the crimped snare beds. COB hoops also installed will make the snare as a whole seem a tad bit heavier as well. If you can look inside the shell and possibly see a seam, then I would guess it is brass. Also the bearing edges are more rounded. Even IF it isn't....a pre-serial NO PITTED Ludaloy supra is hard to find!

Posted on 12 years ago
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My COB is a brass 63' pre-serial with baseball bat muffler, crimped beds and rolled edges. I love mine. Excellent snare drums.

[IMG]http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n632/PurdieShuffle/COB1.jpg[/IMG]

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 12 years ago
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No date stamp inside my shell, but it looks like a seam. It weighs more than my old acro by a few pounds...using just a cheap bathroom scale that probably isn't that accurate.

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Posted on 12 years ago
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Mine has the crimped snare bed too. I literally just learned about that.

Posted on 12 years ago
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The hoops look correct (the gates drop just a bit) and the pic of the bearing edge flange appears to head back toward the shell wall - am I correct? If yes, then brass it is.

Posted on 12 years ago
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From Ron_M

The hoops look correct (the gates drop just a bit) and the pic of the bearing edge flange appears to head back toward the shell wall - am I correct? If yes, then brass it is.

Ron...yep it looks like flange is curved towards shell wall. I also see little "stress mark" lines (very faint straight lines) all over the inside of the shell.

Posted on 12 years ago
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Yep, that's definitely a "Super" 400. Congrats and welcome to the club!

"Failing to prepare, is preparing to fail". John Wooden

Blaemire / Jenkins-Martin drums.

http://www.jenkinsmartindrums.com/
Posted on 12 years ago
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Thanks man!

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