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Ludwig blue olive black oyster

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Hi, first of all, sorry for my bad english, i'm a french canadian from Rimouski.

I'm enjoying this website alot!

Some one just gave me an old kit, kick and floor are ludwig from the 70's and tom is, probably, home made.

My question is about the ludwig.

The drums had the blue olive badge, the sharp corners, with the serial number 887131 (kick) and 887752 (floor)

But as i saw, there are 2 differents sharp corners. The 1969 with the serial number on the badge, and 71, with not serial numbers. But mines had the sharp corners, and the serial number.

Do you have an idea?

I'm new in vintage drumset!

I'll put a photo from my kick drum

Thank you!

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Posted on 8 years ago
#1
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Welcome, most likely early 70's 3 ply great sound gary

April 2nd 1969 scarfed pink champagne holly wood and 65/66 downbeat snare, and , supra same year very minty kit old pies
66/67 downbeat with canister
Super 400 small round knob
1967 super classic obp





once the brass ceases to glitter, and the drum looses its luster, and the stage remains dark, all you have left is the timbre of family.
Posted on 8 years ago
#2
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Serial numbers put them at `71...

Cheers

1976 Ludwig Mach 4 Thermogloss 26-18-14-14sn
1978 Ludwig Stainless 22-22-18-16-14-13-12 c/w 6-8-10-12-13-14-15-16-18-20-22-24 concert toms
1975 Sonor Phonic Centennials Metallic Pewter 22-16-13-12-14sn (D506)
1971 Ludwig Classic Bowling Ball OBP 22-16-14-13
1960's Stewart Peacock Pearl 20-16-12-14sn
1980`s Ludwig Coliseum Piano Black 8x14 snare
1973 Rogers Superten 5x14 & 6.5x14 COS snares
1970`s John Grey Capri Aquamarine Sparkle 5x14 snare
1941 Ludwig & Ludwig Super 8x14 snare
Posted on 8 years ago
#3
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Salut Hemilzdrum, et Bienvenue au forum !! I"m from Montreal myself ! Always great to see a fellow Quebecer on this forum..

I don't know if you or anyone else noticed, but those lugs don't look like your typical Ludwig classic lugs..They look like they were replaced at some point with some MIJ (Made in Japan) lugs.. Some better pics would help determine if that is the case..

By the way, your English is fine ;)

Cheers,

Rob

Posted on 8 years ago
#4
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Hi!

I'll take greater pic's this afternoon!

But at first look, it's look like the classic lugs.

Are there differents serie of ludwig black oyster? Like Ludwig 'something' series?

Like there are tama starclassic, imperialstar, superstar, etc.

Thanks!

Posted on 8 years ago
#5
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From human71

Salut Hemilzdrum, et Bienvenue au forum !! I"m from Montreal myself ! Always great to see a fellow Quebecer on this forum.. I don't know if you or anyone else noticed, but those lugs don't look like your typical Ludwig classic lugs..They look like they were replaced at some point with some MIJ (Made in Japan) lugs.. Some better pics would help determine if that is the case.. By the way, your English is fine ;)Cheers,Rob

Agree, those lugs look weirdEye Ball

Posted on 8 years ago
#6
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Hi you All my Canadian Friends!

Early 70's shell, very cool (to me at least) wrap!

Definitely those are Non-Ludwig replacement lugs.

Hope they haven't drilled the shell to put those lugs on it..... Tabernac!!LoLoLoLo

ps.: My english is worst for sure!!!


Ludwig '67 Classic B.D.P.
Ludwig '79 Classic Pro-beat
C. A. F. '72 New Sonic "The Argentinean Ludwig"
A bunch of Ludwig snares..... + Dyna & P.Tone.
and always trying to recover some orphan drums!!
Posted on 8 years ago
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From HemilzDrum

Hi! I'll take greater pic's this afternoon!But at first look, it's look like the classic lugs. Are there differents serie of ludwig black oyster? Like Ludwig 'something' series?Like there are tama starclassic, imperialstar, superstar, etc. Thanks!

All Ludwig high end drums from that time only had classic lugs, however, another less expensive kit that was still considered a pro kit,a was the late 60's to early 70's Standard Series kits, which had a different lug..

This was only because Ludwig had to compete with the cheaper MIJ import kits that were selling like crazy.. The Standards were made with the same 3 ply Super Classic drum shells, only with lighter hardware.. Yours is not the Standard series, as Ludwig never had that finish in that series.. Most of the finishes on the "Standards" were different colored "Strata" finishes, which kind of look like your black oyster finish, but was also known as the "Bowling Ball Black Oyster" finish.. I had a 1976 kit in the same finish as yours , which i sold like an idiot many years ago.. The lugs currently installed on your drum is 100% cheap "made in Japan" lugs.. Weird that someone would do that. You can easily order correct Classic Lugs direct from Ludwig.. There is also Dave's Drum Shop in Ottawa that sells them . That's where i bought my missing lugs for my custom wrap vintage Ludwig kit.. Dave is a nice guy and very professional. Simply email him directly on the web site and he will get back to you the next day !

cheers,

Rob

Posted on 8 years ago
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From Heraldo Blasco

Hi you All my Canadian Friends!Early 70's shell, very cool (to me at least) wrap!Definitely those are Non-Ludwig replacement lugs. Hope they haven't drilled the shell to put those lugs on it..... Tabernac!!LoLoLoLops.: My english is worst for sure!!!

Tabarnac !! LoLoLoLoLoLoLoLoMy favorite finish too !

Posted on 8 years ago
#9
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I believe the Club Date and Jazzett were the only one`s to have the rail console centered on the BD. It was close to the batter head. The placement of the badge seems strange.

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

.....76/#XK9207 Phonic Sound Machine D454/D-505 snares !i
Posted on 8 years ago
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