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As i was replacing the heads on my 72 Ludwig Hollywood i noticed the 9"x13" rack tom interior is painted, the only one out of 4 shells! Is this going to effect the sound? Also, could Ludwig have done this originaly or could this be a replacement tom?

Joe

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Posted on 13 years ago
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That's the crossover era from clear interiors to Granitone. It's probably original from the factory.

Presumably, Granitone was used to hide less-than-pretty interior plies. It wasn't the first time it was used. Ludwig also employed it on the Standard sereis a few years earlier, to hide funky work. The use of "seconds" for the shells of the Standards was part of what enabled the reduced price of the series.

Back in those days, most players weren't concerned with the minutia, and could care less if the interior of one drum looked different from the other. Remember, it was also an era where more drum heads were opaque. It was an era where the ONLY thing that counted was the SOUND, which is really the way it should be.

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Posted on 13 years ago
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From jrfrond

That's the crossover era from clear interiors to Granitone. It's probably original from the factory.Presumably, Granitone was used to hide less-than-pretty interior plies. It wasn't the first time it was used. Ludwig also employed it on the Standard sereis a few years earlier, to hide funky work. The use of "seconds" for the shells of the Standards was part of what enabled the reduced price of the series.Back in those days, most players weren't concerned with the minutia, and could care less if the interior of one drum looked different from the other. Remember, it was also an era where more drum heads were opaque. It was an era where the ONLY thing that counted was the SOUND, which is really the way it should be.

I am not so worried about the look as much as the tone. I have a 12" with clear and the 13" with granitone and i feel like the granitone has a strange tone. This may just be in my head.

1962 Slingerland Studio King Blue Glass Glitter
1967 Ludwig Super Classic Psych Red FOR SALE
1972 Ludwig Hollywood 3 ply WMP
1970 Rogers Holiday 22"/12"/13"/16"/18"
Posted on 13 years ago
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I think the beginning of the granitone int for top level drums started 71/72, 6 ply started 1976,I bought a brand new 3 ply of the floor in 1978,14 15 mt 20 ft 24 BD,and only the 20 ft was painted.The 20 did not seem out of charecter from the other drums.

Posted on 13 years ago
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Granitone "trunk paint", being a high-solids, thick and opaque coating, might make the drum sound a bit "harder", but it's tough to say, since the Ludwig shells du jour were so inconsistent. I'm not disputing that the drum MIGHT sound different, just pointing out that if it does, there may be other factors involved.

JR Frondelli
www.frondelli.com
www.dbmproaudio.com

Mediocre is the new "good"
Posted on 13 years ago
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From eamesuser

I think the beginning of the granitone int for top level drums started 71/72, 6 ply started 1976,I bought a brand new 3 ply of the floor in 1978,14 15 mt 20 ft 24 BD,and only the 20 ft was painted.The 20 did not seem out of charecter from the other drums.

Intresting that you could buye 1978 3 ply when every timelines says that they was dicounted 76. Was it clear interior too?

I have according to badge, 1978 drums, but clear interior 3 ply with rerings - and according to most information I found on internet - they should not exist.

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