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Internal Felt Mufflers

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So, my 1966 slingerland snare has an absolutley amazing crask when it is cranked up tight and the muffler is press hard against the head, and it sounds amazing wide open too.. But every once in a while I have to wonder when I am playing, Why did American drum companies begin removing the internal muffling system on drum kits? I mean if it were looked at from my perspective it doesn't make much sense. Jazz drummers mostly tune drums wide open, while rock drummers are very found of muffling.. So why as america was pushing onward into more aggressive music did the muffling cease to be produced with drum kits? Anyone else think this is weird?

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Posted on 14 years ago
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I have asked this question many times. I think the "problem" was related to rattling components of the internal mufflers.

But I agree that it's always nicer to have the option to mute the head(s) as much as you'd want -IF you'd want.

And I also really liked the style of the Ludwig "baseball bat" tone control -A LOT!

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Posted on 14 years ago
#2
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because they don't work! the internal muffler pushes the head up and distorts the head seating on the shell,the only Internal muffler system that works are the twin pad variety not the single pad designs!

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Posted on 14 years ago
#3
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Self Dampened heads may play a part too... PowerStroke, PowerCollar, StudioX, etc....

Posted on 14 years ago
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I use the internals on my drums and for my ears, they work just fine. I understand the distortion factor, however if you have to crank them that tight, you have other issues. It should not take massive pressure to get the desired effect. Just my :2Cents: but still, they do work for me.

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Posted on 14 years ago
#5
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I have them on a few Ludwig snares, and on a Sonor snare... just a light touch does the trick.

Posted on 14 years ago
#6
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I agree with most of you on the use of mufflers. I use them on my 1967 Slingerland kit, with 12" and 16" toms. The mufflers just "kiss" the head to remove a bit of ring. Perfect for playing indoors, but probably unnecessary for outdoor use. Of course, I will not be taking this kit outdoors for extended periods anyway!

Posted on 14 years ago
#7
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Dude, not to mention you avoid the nasty look of rings, you can choose how much muffling you want, AND you never have to scrounge around your drum room to find the muffling you lost I.E. moon gels, rings, duct tape.. ect..

They just seem WAY more convenient to me. The rattling usually stops when they are tightened on correctly, and if you know how to use them right they can make your drums sound very fat and modern so you get th best of both world's owning older drums..

:)

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1960's Zildjian Avedis Cymbals

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Posted on 14 years ago
#8
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I have to agree they have worked for me for over 45 years ,I learned to take them apart and tighten them up no squeaks no rattles and i have never had a a sound tech in or out of a studio complain about them making noise, I have used both rogers 40+years and Ludwig on and off but always on my supras.. and i agaree you do not have to push them up so tight against the head that they distort the seating of the head that is probably why they get loose and rattles over tightened..

Posted on 14 years ago
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