Yep, my take on that little impromptu session the other day is basically the same.
The only difference I could hear were the rim shots..... the brass rims do sound different.... were it not for those, there would have been no difference to my ears.
That was a fun day.... we had seven snares set up.
Two 402s, two 400s, a Slingy Ace, a Slingy Artist, and a Slingy marcher.
I was down to my last two snare stands, but dared not use them... a couple of really old and unstable Hamilton stands.
I must disagree with the sound issue. I have 2 supras that I never play because I don't like the sound. I have an early 60s Ludwig 400 Super that I love the sound of, and I play it often. It's the only snare drum other than my 20s NOB Ludwigs that our guitar player likes at all.
I must disagree with the sound issue. I have 2 supras that I never play because I don't like the sound. I have an early 60s Ludwig 400 Super that I love the sound of, and I play it often. It's the only snare drum other than my 20s NOB Ludwigs that our guitar player likes at all.
The early 60s Supra would be the one with the deep crimped snare beds. Later ones (like the cut blue olive badged ones) lack those snare beds. So it is quite possible you are all correct. Consider that Brass and Aluminum Supras sound the same or different depending on what snare wires and heads you use and how you tune them. For some people/tunings/heads/snare wires, the deep crimped snare beds will make all the difference. For others they won't.
Disclaimer: I've just got a modern BB with Imperial lugs, none of these older collectable Supras. I just think of it as a very suntanned Brass Supra. :)
I will agree with that the Original Brass crimped snare drums do sound different than the the non crimped ones, like atomicmorganic stated, I have a 20s ludwig ten lug and I'll go to my grave with it! the prior comparsion I mentioned was with modern brass and ludalloy drums not vintage.
Whew! For a minute there I thought everyone had gone deaf from playing drums too much.
curtis, yes Only on the original stainless steel test Set's, only the top ludwig dealers in the country were allowed to have one kit to test the public's reaction to the S/S drums, so the ludwig rep would take delivery of a kit and personally deliver it to the proper dealer, and before the kit left the factory, the final inspector hand scribed the serial#'s onto the cutoff lugwig logo.
My early 70's acrolite looks like it was scratched in the badge. Is this a Ludwig factory job?
My early 70's acrolite looks like it was scratched in the badge. Is this a Ludwig factory job?
Never ever seen one, post a pic on it start another thread we've hijacked this one enough OK?:Santa:
Ahem! I've been saying this for years on the forum, but everyone thought I was insane. "There has to be a difference in sound, they are made of different materials" was what I always got. I'm glad someone else figured this out as well......Cool1;)The reason for Ludwig's switch from brass to aluminum shells was purely a cost issue, not a sound issue. If they didn;t sound right, they wouldn't have done it. Now....I bet you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference in sound between a brass black beauty and a bronze black beauty.......
Have to agree...I own both..and I CANNOT tell the difference!!!
Yep, my take on that little impromptu session the other day is basically the same.The only difference I could hear were the rim shots..... the brass rims do sound different.... were it not for those, there would have been no difference to my ears.That was a fun day.... we had seven snares set up.Two 402s, two 400s, a Slingy Ace, a Slingy Artist, and a Slingy marcher.I was down to my last two snare stands, but dared not use them... a couple of really old and unstable Hamilton stands.
OK..now, that HAD to be a blast!!!Clapping Happy2
I must disagree with the sound issue. I have 2 supras that I never play because I don't like the sound. I have an early 60s Ludwig 400 Super that I love the sound of, and I play it often. It's the only snare drum other than my 20s NOB Ludwigs that our guitar player likes at all.
I'm a bit lost here..did you mean to say, "60s Ludwig 400 'Supra?' or 'Super'
