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Help determining value of Slingerland/WFL drums? Last viewed: 7 hours ago

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Hey all,

I apologize if I am posting this in the wrong section of the forum. I don't mean to clutter your community with my nonsense, but I am looking to confirm the value of a couple of drums I have.

The first is a set of glass black Radio King Slingerland drums. 22" bass, 16", 14", 13" toms. Dated at about '68-'72 (though I am having trouble identifying exactly what year they were made and would love any help in that area). I have the serial numbers and stuff as well. The drums are used, but in good condition and have the original foot pedal and hi-hat stand. I would ship this set with:

tom holder, dbl tom mount, flow tom legs, hi-hat stand, bass drum pedal. I've seen these at about $2,000.

The second drum is a chrome 5.5x14 Radio King Slingerland snare in excellent condition with the original strainer, muffler, and no added drill holes. Haven't been able to find a reliable price for this item.

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The third and final item is a 13" WFL Duco from about 1939-1949 (again having trouble dating this item). It's original with no added holes and the original tom mount and is a collector's item. Seen this go for about $1,900.

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All in all, I'd like to say I appreciate any help you guys can send my way. I'm not looking to sell these items. I just want to find out how much they're worth at this point in time.

Uploading pics right now.

Posted on 14 years ago
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Thanks! Appreciate the early response. I just added some pictures, so I hope that helps further. And I was looking at those charts for the SLs, but I was hoping there was a way to really nail down the exact year.

I'm curious as to why you're telling me I'm overestimating their value (and I'm not saying you're wrong). I did some digging around on the internet trying to find what other people were selling the same drums for and came back with those prices. Again, I'm not saying you're wrong, and I appreciate your honesty. Just trying to understand why there may be a discrepancy there.

From what I understand, the WFL Duco tom is extremely old and I'm not confident that anything less than $300 makes sense. How is it that a WFL Duco snare from that era goes for about 1900 but a tom goes for 200?

Posted on 14 years ago
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You need to only look at "completed deals" as opposed to all of the unsold kits with exorbitant prices. VM2K's prices are pretty good. If you feel the need to pay 2000 for the ubiquitous black Slingy, then knock yourself out. If you're trying to sell it for that price ... you may want to invest in a comfortable chair. You'll be sitting by it for quite a while.

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Posted on 14 years ago
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I hear ya. It's been difficult to find listings of some of these items online, so it's been hard to accurately place their value.

Posted on 14 years ago
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Hi Kendrick Drums,

Just trying to help.I've been watching Slingerland COB Krupa snares on ebay for about the last year or so. I've seen some very nice looking ones go anywhere from $100 to about $250. I actually just picked one up myself in very good condition for $199.

Again on ebay, I've seen late 60's to early 70's Slingy kits go anywhere from $400.00 on up, but they rarely ever get sold for more than $1000, especially in this economy. Slingy kits, for whatever reason, do not sell as high as the other American made drum kits. This makes me very happy since I am a Slingy guy and tend to be a buyer, not a seller :)

My take on why snare drums have far greater value than single toms: they are far more sought after. Some drummers collect snare drums. I don't know any drummers that collect single toms. There are many snare models, some are very hard to come by, and they are the center piece of the drum kit. As an admittedly generic example, take the price of radio king snares from any era vs the price of a Slingy mounted tom of the same wrap and vintage. The RK snares usually go around $300-$600+, while mounted toms can be had for around $100-$150.

Hope this helps!

James

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Posted on 14 years ago
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That WFL badge is the 48-52 "Drum Co Damen" badge is it not?

You guys are right on with your pricing as far as my experience goes. Id think the kit would be right around $400-$500 depending on condition. If there is a snare maybe $100 more. Black is about as common as it gets. Even in mint condition Im not sure anyone cares enough to spend more than $750. I sold a nice white 70's kit VIRGIN 24/12/13/14/15/18 with wooden snare and almost no fade for $600 earlier this year. 3 ply shells were like new inside and all original heads on the toms. (Shakes fist at economy)

The WFL tom is cool, but not in great shape. The Krupa (if it is indeed that) is also is very common. I sold one last year for $125 on CL.

-Adam

Posted on 14 years ago
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Thanks, guys! Nothing but helpful information so far. I appreciate all the input.

Posted on 14 years ago
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Kendrick, Am I missing something, am I blind or just stupid?...You are giving info on all sorts of drums, but none of it jives with much more than the snare and a WFL tom. You state you have a Slingerland "glass black" kit, however all I see is a COB snare and a black and gold duco tom. Are you really asking for info on a complete kit, or are you trying to inflate a C/L listing? Please don't take this wrong, but I can read and I'm not blind, so either I missed something or you pulled some pix down. Slingerland kits, in those sizes AVERAGE about $600, and duco kits don't get that these days. The snare looks to be in good condition, except for the typical indentations of a drum that has lived it's life over tensioned (note the side that is dented from years of a too tight head) I am not being ugly, just making my observation and looking for the rest of the pictures....I am with my friend RogerSling on this...over-inflated prices don't get bought in this economy, and you aren't even showing us the kit you are truly selling. If you could post pics of the rest of the drums, we would be better able to give you the advice you seek, but with what you have up so far...no big money is in your future. You see, what I see is a Ludwig/WFL tom and a COB snare, not a complete Radio King kit. If it is a "Gloss Black" RK, it could well be a modern kit, and as such would be worth diddly squat...

Please post some pictures of the complete kit you are asking about, it will make a tremendous difference in the answers.

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Posted on 14 years ago
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Kendrick, Am I missing something, am I blind or just stupid?...You are giving info on all sorts of drums, but none of it jives with much more than the snare and a WFL tom. You state you have a Slingerland "glass black" kit, however all I see is a COB snare and a black and gold duco tom. Are you really asking for info on a complete kit, or are you trying to inflate a C/L listing? Please don't take this wrong, but I can read and I'm not blind, so either I missed something or you pulled some pix down. Slingerland kits, in those sizes AVERAGE about $600, and duco kits don't get that these days. The snare looks to be in good condition, except for the typical indentations of a drum that has lived it's life over tensioned (note the side that is dented from years of a too tight head) I am not being ugly, just making my observation and looking for the rest of the pictures....I am with my friend RogerSling on this...over-inflated prices don't get bought in this economy, and you aren't even showing us the kit you are truly selling. If you could post pics of the rest of the drums, we would be better able to give you the advice you seek, but with what you have up so far...no big money is in your future. You see, what I see is a Ludwig/WFL tom and a COB snare, not a complete Radio King kit. If it is a "Gloss Black" RK, it could well be a modern kit, and as such would be worth diddly squat...Please post some pictures of the complete kit you are asking about, it will make a tremendous difference in the answers.

I'm not selling anything. You make rude comments about being able to read and not being blind, but seemed to skip over the fine print.

The pictures of the kit will be posted when I have them uploaded.

Posted on 14 years ago
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