Are you sure that the one with offset lugs isn't a Premier? Not German I know, just throwing it out there due to the slotted rods.

The possible tromsa makes sense, that throw also is on SONOR and I think it was tromsa that took over the SONOR factory when they moved during the war.

I`ve never seen the dog ear wingnut on that throw on anything but SONOR.

I saw those rods and thought the same thing.

Definitely German snares. :)

I think that wingnut is not original to this snare. I can't imagine it would even turn 360 degrees with the dog ears. I will probably have to remove the butt-end just to take that wingnut off. That snare should be arriving soon so I'll upload some more photos including the inside of the shell. I wonder if the grain runs horizontal and what wood was used in construction of these shells.

The turquoise sparkle snare appears to be a DERI, possibly missing a piece or two from the throwoff.

The last photo with the staggered lugs possibly a 60's LEFIMA, but if so should be scored on the shell with the Lefima logo. I recognize the lug castings on it, but something overall about the drum lends an air of uncertainty. The shell size looks like a true 14" rather than the slightly wider diameter metric shell found on many snares of that era. Possibly a TROMSA or one of its sub brands. The beertap throwoff is commonly found on quite a few vintage German snares. Possibly a Tacton? I defer to the experts.

Thanks for the info. I think that both these drums with the offset lugs might have had some work done to them at some point.

The first photo here is of a Tromsa snare. The second photo is my own snare which looks identical apart from the lugs. Maybe somebody put Lefima lugs on a Tromsa shell.

# 3 is a Deri. It will have either a European beech or birch shell. Unusual to German drums, Deri/Rimmel used birch a lot for shells. It likely has a rather heavy r-ring.

#4 is a Tromsa. This is the lug that they started using in the late 60's, through the 70's.

# 1 and 2. That style of drum, with the floating heads and single tension is a popular style in Germany used for marching or tanzmusik drums and every company made various versions of it at one time or another. Sometimes the tensioners are on the top and sometimes son the bottom. Using a tempered ring, around which to furl the bearing edge is also a common feature on many metal shelled drums.

# 1 is a relatively modern drum and has some features that say 1960's. I'm guessing it is a Lefima, which at the time was nationalized and using common parts and facilities with Trowa but that is a guess, based on certain features.

# 2 is an older drum. In the period when it was made, and I suspect the 1930's there were many other German drum makers, than the 7 or so that distilled out in the 50's, so it is a bit of a guess again to put a name on it, without a clear catalogue presentation. Also, some of the components for drums in Germany were made in fabricating plants that then sold the same components to several makers, so several companies could have the same wing nuts or throwoff, etc.

Oddball; fact check

It was not Tromsa who took over the Sonor factory. Tromsa was a family owned business which was an acronym for TROMmel SAttler, the German for drum, followed by the name of the family. They were in West Germany , in a city called Russelsheim.

It was Trowa that the Sonor plant morphed into in East Germany. Later, the family owned but nationalized company Lefima also got into hot water with the authorities and from an economic standpoint , it made little sense for East Germany to have two drum factories, so Trowa and Lefima were merged into a new company called Tacton.

Tromsa, Trowa, close enough.......

Where you been ? I thought Lefima had more of a raised panel between the beads ? and more squared. and the big throw wingnut, I never seen on anything but SONOR throws. Forged clips and not cast ??

But you`re more versed in this era than I.