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Hello, first time poster and I hope you all can help.

I have a Frankenstein Ludwig set: the 20 x 14 is a 1964, the 16 x 16 is from 1959 and the 12 x 8 - well I'm not too sure but it does have the white painted interior. All 3 drums are of the 3-ply variety with the original wrap. The shells are all in good shape and pretty well round. I know the hoops are warped though.

The drums are absolutely dead/choked when played in their normal position on the carpet or rug. If I put the floor tom above a hard surface, and when I hold the ride tom above a hard surface, the drums sound fabulous with lots of ring.

What gives? Since I always play them either on a carpeted floor or rug, they sound horrible. What's a guy to do to make them sing?

Thanks.

mtug

Posted on 10 years ago
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Are you playing the tom mounted on the bass drum with the conselette mount? Does the floor tom have straight legs ?

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Posted on 10 years ago
#2
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I'm playing the ride tom in a snare basket stand. The floor tom has the very old fashioned straight legs.

Posted on 10 years ago
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From vintagemore2000

Are you playing the tom mounted on the bass drum with the conselette mount? Does the floor tom have straight legs ?

Vintagemore2000 - I know where you're going with this. ;)

Putting a tom tom on a snare stand has been known to deaden a drum. Especially if the basket is adjusted tight on the bottom rim. Does your bass drum have a rail consolette to mount the tom tom? You could get a suspension mount for the tom tom.

Here is a thread that should help with the floor tom.

http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=50416

-Tim

Posted on 10 years ago
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A snare stand will work just do not tighten the basket down or it will choke the drum .

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Posted on 10 years ago
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Is it the same hard surface only with the rug pulled back? Is the rug on a hollow wooden floor? Get some of the silly looking floor tom feet pictured. They look silly but they work full-on magic.

Experiment with the snare stand, which way it tilts for example [arm centered at badge or two arms either side of badge]. Tuning is key of course...

Lots of variables, try em all. And do it like they do at the stock car track; one change at a time and make a note.

Mitch

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Posted on 10 years ago
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Thanks for all the help.

DownTownFarmer: Where can I get some of those??

Posted on 10 years ago
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From mtug

Thanks for all the help.DownTownFarmer: Where can I get some of those??

Should be available from your local music store or get em to order some in. The ones pictured are Pearl, what I'm using, and they are magic.

Type "pearl isolation feet floor tom" into google to find online sources...

Hope you get them drums singin!

Mitch

Posted on 10 years ago
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Gibralter makes some of those tips too that seem to have good reviews for the floor tom. http://www.musiciansfriend.com/drums-percussion/gibraltar-floating-floor-tom-feet?rNtt=gibraltar floor tom resonant&index=6

. I would also recommend for the rack tom, try using a flat based, old style, WFL style snare stand for the rack. My newer style snare stand, cradle type that tightens, still chokes my rack off. Put it on my old style WFL stand, and it sing, sing, sings!

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Posted on 10 years ago
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Is this a unique condition for this kit or have you had similar outcomes with other drums, particularly other Ludwig drums? I've struggled with Ludwigs in the past and that is one of the reasons I've steered away for some time. However, I understand others have great experience with their Ludwigs, so I have to assume it is particular to the drums you have and that was the same case for the one I had.

Posted on 10 years ago
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