Anyone use a new sky blue pearl wrap? I have this nice Ludwig clubdate but is missing a FT. I found a FT with a sparkle wrap that matches the date of my kit. I dont think I will ever find a SBP ft so I was considering buying the sparkle one and rewrapping with new SBP wrap. Anyone out there ever done this? I no its not going to be an exact match. Its like me tring to match a finish on a 40 year old cabinet. Just wondered if anyone has done this and was happy with the results.
Thank you
Jeff C
I've never tried to match old with new. That being said, keep the following in mind:
A) wrap material has probably changed. I don't think it's made of the same celluloid. I could be wrong.
B) you can probably match yellowing pretty easily, but fading could be hard to match. That being said, there is a company that makes custom wrap and could possibly match for colour. I of course can't remember the company who offers it, but they're pretty commonly known e-tailer for drum stuff.
Get plenty of samples, and ask for a larger size. A little 1" chip will not tell the story.
Good luck!!!
Jeff,
From what I've seen in the past, the "Vintage Sky Blue Pearl" that Delmar makes (available at Jammin' Sams, Precision, etc.) seems to have more "blue" in it, whereas the older stuff seems to be more "gray." I'm guessing that more than likely this is probably just due to the normal fading process of the older drums.
I've got a 14x22 Slingerland BD in SBP that I'm missing the hoops for, so I'm needing inlay strips. The wrap on the BD is about as good as anything I've ever seen on a drum from the 60s. But, eventually I'll probably just end up ordering some of the new stuff...
Like bunnyman said, get some samples. Precision will tell you that even from stock to stock sometimes there is shading variations.
Bill
First of all that's an awesome looking kit! Jump For Joy
When SBP fades as it should it takes on a nice smoky grey appearance which your kit has done.
The problem you will encounter is the new SBP wrap will have more blue in it. It takes ten-twenty years for the wrap to take on this nice grey tone. I have a 70's SBP Hollywood kit that has this nice grey fade to it.
The same fade phenoma happens with silver sparkle, called the "ginger-ale" effect. I re-wrapped a 12" Club date tom with new silver sparkle. Of course it did not quite match the bass and ft which had "ginger-aled" over 40 years.
Something that speeds the fade process is bright light. If you buy the wrap and it doesn't quite match your kit, you can try "fading" a small piece under a heat lamp for 12- 24 hours and see the result. You need to check on it every hour or so until the wrap reaches the desired tone. This way you control the fade. This method worked for me with new WMP wrap. After a day under the heat lamp it had the appearance of thirty years of fade and better matched my kit.
You do have some really good options as mentioned above to get a close match.
-kellyj
I've never tried this but.. you could send one of the drums out and have some custom wrap made up that would be an exact match. I'm pretty sure there are a couple places that do this, drummaker.com is one of them.
First of all that's an awesome looking kit! Jump For JoyWhen SBP fades as it should it takes on a nice smoky grey appearance which your kit has done. The problem you will encounter is the new SBP wrap will have more blue in it. It takes ten-twenty years for the wrap to take on this nice grey tone. I have a 70's SBP Hollywood kit that has this nice grey fade to it.The same fade phenoma happens with silver sparkle, called the "ginger-ale" effect. I re-wrapped a 12" Club date tom with new silver sparkle. Of course it did not quite match the bass and ft which had "ginger-aled" over 40 years.Something that speeds the fade process is bright light. If you buy the wrap and it doesn't quite match your kit, you can try "fading" a small piece under a heat lamp for 12- 24 hours and see the result. You need to check on it every hour or so until the wrap reaches the desired tone. This way you control the fade. This method worked for me with new WMP wrap. After a day under the heat lamp it had the appearance of thirty years of fade and better matched my kit.You do have some really good options as mentioned above to get a close match.-kellyj
Tanning bed could also work, no? I .do that when aging guitars I have built or want to look aged.
Thanks guys, all good advice here. I do like getting a sample, are those free, oh waht am I talking about, of course not, free?
Bill, too bad your bass is 22", I do have one SBP hoop but its 20"
I did not know you could send a drum in to have it matched, interesting. I would like to find what that cost.
Now for the drum itself, this a 1967 white interior with rings in good condition. The seller contacted me via my c/l add " we buy drums" He is about 250 miles away. Now I have to decide how to get it from him. Oh and he wants 100.00 for it, its a 14" I belive. He called me when I was drinkin beer in Atlanta airport! lol!
Thanks again,
Jeff C
Well, a 60s 14x14 Club Date floor tom is easily worth the $100, IMO.
And, I probably don't have to tell you this ('cause you probably already know this), but be extremely careful removing the old wrap. Use heat, and go SLOW so as to not damage the outer ply too much. I've got a 16x16 Ludwig (classic) FT that someone attempted to remove the wrap (before I got it, of course!) and really butchered the outer ply before they gave up. Haven't tried to salvage that one, yet...
IF this one you're getting is in really good shape, I'd be tempted to wait until I found one that really needed to be rewrapped!
Just ramblin' on.... sorry.
Bill
Well, a 60s 14x14 Club Date floor tom is easily worth the $100, IMO.And, I probably don't have to tell you this ('cause you probably already know this), but be extremely careful removing the old wrap. Use heat, and go SLOW so as to not damage the outer ply too much. I've got a 16x16 Ludwig (classic) FT that someone attempted to remove the wrap (before I got it, of course!) and really butchered the outer ply before they gave up. Haven't tried to salvage that one, yet...IF this one you're getting is in really good shape, I'd be tempted to wait until I found one that really needed to be rewrapped!Just ramblin' on.... sorry.Bill
Ya Bill I hear ya. Do these cludates (1967) hard to find? Dont see many on ebay.
The tanning bed is a good idea.
If the wrap is good on the $100 club date and the drum itself has not been molested then you have a $200-$250 drum that you won't want to disturb and you've just made some good $$. On Ebay CD's go for hefty bucks. I have found a few orphans locally. One was paired with a Stewart kit and painted yellow to match it. It looks terrible as is. Its a duco underneath.
On the other hand if your $100 ft has been molested, then It'a $100 drum ready for re-wrap.
kellyj
