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Black Beauty snares -- Olive or Keystone badge? Last viewed: 17 hours ago

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Ludwig muddied the waters by using the B/O badge on those B stock Black Beauties in the last few years. Not helpful.

My 2002 BB is basically a Supra with a tan as far as I'm concerned. Imperial lugs. P-85. Keystone badge. Sounds great, but wouldn't appeal to 1920s Ludwig snare fans.

But it doesn't match the rest of my 1969/70 kit which does have B/O badges. I've learned to live with the shame. ;)

Posted on 13 years ago
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They are all really nice and depends totally on whether you're a purist or willing to budge a little on your requirements.

The original BB's were not badged at all and stamped "Ludwig" on the shell with several different engraving designs.

The 70's B&O drums now command as much or close to the originals in re-sale.

The newer Monroe "Keystone" drums are very nice too. As has been said, its a Supra with a tan. I have one of these and it has such a nice focused attack, same as the pre-serial brass Supras but for less money.

"It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing..."
Posted on 13 years ago
#12
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id like both personally, they have a look thats is both nostalgic ones more of a true relic and the other is considered sort of like early 70's psychedelic i would say, anyways whats not to like!

April 2nd 1969 scarfed pink champagne holly wood and 65/66 downbeat snare, and , supra same year very minty kit old pies
66/67 downbeat with canister
Super 400 small round knob
1967 super classic obp





once the brass ceases to glitter, and the drum looses its luster, and the stage remains dark, all you have left is the timbre of family.
Posted on 13 years ago
#13
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I don't think the B/O badge is the prettiest to look at in the Ludwig badge lineup... I think the keystones are better as the smaller size doesn't seem to standout as much.

Posted on 13 years ago
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From kellyj

They are all really nice and depends totally on whether you're a purist or willing to budge a little on your requirements. The original BB's were not badged at all and stamped "Ludwig" on the shell with several different engraving designs. The 70's B&O drums now command as much or close to the originals in re-sale. The newer Monroe "Keystone" drums are very nice too. As has been said, its a Supra with a tan. I have one of these and it has such a nice focused attack, same as the pre-serial brass Supras but for less money.

Good education here too. At the end day, both badges are nice. The pre serial COB Supra has mojo written all over it...

Posted on 13 years ago
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Don't want to seem like too much of a fan-boy, but here's one of the reasons why I play Cherrywood Yamaha RCs and a 6.5X14 Black Beauty with a b/o badge. Mmmm good...

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePfNRm7Jr4s&feature=fvsr"]Jellyfish - Ghost At Number One[/ame]

Posted on 13 years ago
#16
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Jellyfish - what a great unheralded band.

Steve

Vintage Drum Student
Posted on 13 years ago
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