Gads... now you're making me remember... THE OLD DAYS!

eeek.

First, the only double bass kit I ever played had two bass drums, so I don't have a clue about hoop mount problems with double kicks. However, getting the bass drum (and those old flat based high hats) to stay put was another matter that I remember well.

The genre was Surf Music, sometime around 1964 or 65. My friends and I are in Jr. High and we had us a band! (Played regularly at most of the Jr. High dances... oh yeah...)

Most of the other drummers I knew had the same problem. The bass drum would shimmy and shake more than Susie Sweetcake (your best girl) and you'd end up having to yank the blasted thing back after each song. The high hat danced a bit as well, just not so badly. Most of the guys I knew resorted to clothes hangers or light rope looped around a couple of the bass drum claws, under the tension rods, and then tied to your throne. Same with the high hat, loop something around the thing and tie it down. The crazies did things like drill a hole in the bottom of the bass drum and nail it to the stage. I just couldn't see doing that, but saw it done lots of times. Some guys carried a hunk of 2X4 around and nailed it to the stage in front of the bass...

Yeah, we used rugs, but it didn't help. Those old three ply bass drums, be they American or MIJ's (mine was a gold sparkle Crown kit) just didn't weigh enough to keep things in one spot. Tripod based stands hadn't become available yet that I knew of. Everything was flat based and danced as much as Susie. While it was certainly fun to watch Susie dance and point to you back up on stage, it was not that much fun when all your gear is trying to run away from you and matching Susie's dance moves quite well.

Now I use a Gibraltar three spiked clamp on the front hoop and the spikes in the kick to keep the thing in place. Seems to work.

Hmmm... I wonder whatever happened to Susie... That girl did have some moves...

Hi,

I use a vintage Ludwig speed king pedal with my Slingerland and Ludwig kits. In my opinion, you cant get any better than that :). I also play around with a couple of Slingerland AA and Epic pedals from time to time, but they dont come close to the speed king. Pick one up (vintage or otherwise) if you can and give it a try.

I also use a Ludwig bass drum anchor and with a rug under the bass drum and it seems to work pretty well.

Good luck!

James

I used a DW 5000 for nearly 20 years. Just switched to a vintage Speed King, and I'm never going back. Such a great pedal. Of course, that doesn't solve your problem if you're looking for a double pedal, as you seem to be.

I find that a drum rug is good enough to keep my RB Gretsch bass drum from going anywhere, even with the tom mounted on a separate stand. Before I switched to the Speed King, I also used the anchor screws in my DW pedal, but I find that I don't miss them. Then again, I have my ride cymbal mounted on the bass, and I keep my heel on the floor when I play.

Have you tried one of these anchors?

http://www.precisiondrum.com/SC-44021.gif

Precision Drum sells them for $16. They're made by Gibraltar, so I'm sure your local drum shop could get them in.

I use this one, it's the same one Precision sells, but it's about 5 bucks less, or my vintage Star and they seem to keep my old 3 ply MIJ bass right where I put it, on the carpet, but I suspect raising it off the carpet would increase my projection by a good 50%. Right now, although it has fantastic tone, it is muted by the carpet. The tone is due in large part to the modified interior of the bass shell. I inlaid a veneer of curly maple and lacquered it with about 6 coats of stain infused Delf brushing lacquer from Lowe's.

http://www.drumfactorydirect.com/index.php?main_page=advanced_search_result&search_in_description=1&keyword=bass+anchor

I use one of those Bass Drum Front Foot anchors - I like it.

I was watching The Beatles' A Hard Days Night (1964) last week and Ringo had one on the front of his bass drum. I haven't seen the movie in 45yrs or so. Gawd....getting old sucks....but it beats the alternative don't it.