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From brushbaby

...well I guess that's the story of my life, it's never easy to swim against the tide but I can cope with the world loving 400s, there are worse things to worry about.Like the fact that Justin Beiber has sold more records than Tom Waits, but let's not go there:D

Now, THAT IS a travesty!

fishwaltz
Posted on 11 years ago
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just wondering how old u r bb

April 2nd 1969 scarfed pink champagne holly wood and 65/66 downbeat snare, and , supra same year very minty kit old pies
66/67 downbeat with canister
Super 400 small round knob
1967 super classic obp





once the brass ceases to glitter, and the drum looses its luster, and the stage remains dark, all you have left is the timbre of family.
Posted on 11 years ago
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One feeling I have that I need to convey before this thread comes to a close is that IMO Ludwig have done the most magical things in they're design of Metal Snare drums. Despite all the other amazing things Ludwig have done through they're history, the metal snares for me have been pretty much paramount in the whole drum industry. I take my hat off to Ludwig and the metal snares they have made through the ages. Thank you Ludwig.

A drummer. x

40's Slingerland Radio King WMP
60's Ludwig Downbeat Silver Spark
70's Ludwig Super Classic White Marine
60's Gretsch RB Champaigne Spark
70's Rogers Big R Black
90's Sonor Hilite (Red maple)
00's DW Collectors Broken Glass
00's DW Jazz Series Tangerine Glass
10's DW Collectors (Acrylic) Matt Black Wrap
10's PDP Concept Wood Hoop kit (Maple)
Proud ambassador of the British Drum Company
Posted on 11 years ago
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You are not alone Brushbaby. I saw one fore sale on the shelf at GC and I picked it up, shook it and it rattled. A fully assembled snare should not make any sound if you pick it up and shake it. I don`t know if this is normal for them, but this one did and I was turned off right away by the build.

When I picked up my D506 and my D454, not a sound when shaken, and if you throw it in the water, it`ll float !i

Go ahead 400 owners, shake them and get back to me, I wanna know if it was just this one or if they all do, please be honest !i

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

.....76/#XK9207 Phonic Sound Machine D454/D-505 snares !i
Posted on 11 years ago
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No shake no rattle but it does rock n roll.

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 11 years ago
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From OddBall

You are not alone Brushbaby. I saw one fore sale on the shelf at GC and I picked it up, shook it and it rattled. A fully assembled snare should not make any sound if you pick it up and shake it. I don`t know if this is normal for them, but this one did and I was turned off right away by the build. When I picked up my D506 and my D454, not a sound when shaken, and if you throw it in the water, it`ll float !i Go ahead 400 owners, shake them and get back to me, I wanna know if it was just this one or if they all do, please be honest !i

Sure you weren't in Mothercare? Common mistake for drummers LOL!!!

40's Slingerland Radio King WMP
60's Ludwig Downbeat Silver Spark
70's Ludwig Super Classic White Marine
60's Gretsch RB Champaigne Spark
70's Rogers Big R Black
90's Sonor Hilite (Red maple)
00's DW Collectors Broken Glass
00's DW Jazz Series Tangerine Glass
10's DW Collectors (Acrylic) Matt Black Wrap
10's PDP Concept Wood Hoop kit (Maple)
Proud ambassador of the British Drum Company
Posted on 11 years ago
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Nice comeback VM2K.

No gecko, for real,...I was turned off by this one and wondered if they all were like that, there was this only one. No other to see about.

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

.....76/#XK9207 Phonic Sound Machine D454/D-505 snares !i
Posted on 11 years ago
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From brushbaby

...I just wonder how it was decided they are the most recorded drum ever, anybody know if there was some kind of survey?

From brushbaby

I wonder how you go about proving such a thing and I also wonder if the main reason for this legend is that Hal Blaine used one and he played on so many records...I have my suspicions that this is one of those rock and roll myths that becomes generally accepted but in the end is un-provable.

No proper quantitative research would have been done that I've ever heard of...not that people tell me everything they are up to. :D

I suspect it started with Hal Blaine as you do. Let's blame him. :D It gets repeated in this form in Rob Cook's The Ludwig Book:

Quoted post

It is frequently said of the Supraphonic 400 that it is the most recorded snare drum in history. Perhaps if Hal Blaine had stuck with Slingerland, that claim would be assigned to the Radio King!

That pretty much says it for me. It is a frequently repeated claim, but frequency of repetition doesn't make a claim any more well researched or well founded or documented. It just makes it frequently repeated.

So I'll wait and see if somebody can trace down the original claim. That would be historically interesting.

Disclaimer: I haven't got one either. Just a 2002 Black Beauty with the Imperial Lugs, P-85, 5" deep, etc. I call it my Supra with a Suntan.

Posted on 11 years ago
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From jaghog

just wondering how old u r bb

I'm a week away from my 48th birthday Jaghog, now how the hell did that happen

Posted on 11 years ago
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From brushbaby

I'm a week away from my 48th birthday Jaghog, now how the hell did that happen

Ah 48, I remember it well. Even though you're just a kid, I'm still with you regarding the 400.

-No Guru... still learning more every day-
Posted on 11 years ago
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