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58' Gretsch Progressive Jazz kit/Sound File

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From johnnyringo

I didn't hear "low" toms, they sounded pretty high, like a jazz kit.

Mark, they really are as low as they can go! I'm just slightly above wrinkle on the toms! (13", 16") If I tune them in the middle of their range, then they sound 'jazzy' (high) to me. I like them where they are now. I have a crappy mic in the videocam I'm using which I'm sure isn't helping much sound quality-wise in the recording.

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 11 years ago
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Nice kit Plowman, and wrap looks great. I could hear the bass, and yes, the toms do sound low and the snare a cracker to be sure. Is the bass 20 or 22?

I used merlot on a Camco kit last year. Village Drum Shop in RI did the work. The kit had been refinished in the 80's with a cheap version of aqua flame that was tearing. So took it down and viola. I think it looks better on your kit though.

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Posted on 11 years ago
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Dan - The BD is a 20" but punchy and it has a great tone. Not much volume from this kit, but it makes up for it with a sound that is really warm and 'round.'

Your Camco kit kicks my Gretsch in the keester for looks! I know for sure that the Camco kicks butt on the Gretsch sound-wise as well. I have an Oaklawn (orphan) kit I put together and I know the Camco's to be some of the best sounding drums I have ever heard or played.

Wanna swap? :p

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 11 years ago
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From Dan Boucher

Nice kit Plowman, and wrap looks great. I could hear the bass, and yes, the toms do sound low and the snare a cracker to be sure. Is the bass 20 or 22? I used merlot on a Camco kit last year. Village Drum Shop in RI did the work. The kit had been refinished in the 80's with a cheap version of aqua flame that was tearing. So took it down and viola. I think it looks better on your kit though.

Dan, is that the Camco kit with the floor tom leg mount as a rack tom mount? If so, would love to see a picture (or of the other kit that looks like that).

Posted on 11 years ago
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well done john. they sound and look great!

mike

Posted on 11 years ago
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First of all, I owe apologies for the mistake of writing Plowman instead of Ploughman, then the mistake of writing that when it was supposed to be addressed to Purdie Shuffle. I had just been checking out Ploughman's collection of Big 'R' Rogers on eBay and then proceeded to the path of error. Apologies to both.

Now, on the Camcos: Purdie - You and I will have to disagree on the look of merlot on the Gretsh and Camco shells. I prefer the look on yours. And, I sold the kit shortly after having the work done.

Antipodes: No, this particular Camco kit was built with a rail from the factory. It dates to 65 or so, though I don't really know much about dating Camcos. The kit I referred to was built a bit later and had the triangular shaped later mount on the bass with the floor tom leg style mount on the tom. If anyone has a Camco catalog from the era with the Astro kit showing as a 20,12,14 offering, go to the parts pages and you will see that a double tom mount was offered using the triangle mount for the bass and two of the leg brackets to hold the toms. I think it was an interim arrangment, after which they came out with the ball and socket unit with hex rods projecting into a new mount on the toms. The '71 catalog you can access from this webpage shows the Astro kit. I have a Camco catalog at home that I think is earlier, maybe '68 or '69, but it shows both the Astro kit with the new mounting arrangement and the interim double tom mount in the section that offers mounting units.

Posted on 11 years ago
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> it was supposed to be addressed to Purdie Shuffle.

Oh, that's ok, Dave. Happens to the best of us. :p

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 11 years ago
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Sounds good John! I hope they're still set up next time I visit. Might be able to make the kick drum a little more prominent in the camera mic, we can check it out then.

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Posted on 11 years ago
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You're welcome anytime! The sooner the better. I was thinking of swapping out the Gretsch for my green glass kit. It's been a little while since I played the Blaemires and I'm starting to Jones for them.

Come by quick, or you'll miss the Gretsch kit! :p

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 11 years ago
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No sweat, green glass is good too! See you soon, gotta go to the drumgeon and work on my stuff.

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Posted on 11 years ago
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