I got these two shells from Ludwig in 1994.This was the first year of this finish.Both drums are the Marble finish shells.For the ones that don't know about this finish it was applied by hand with a sponge lacquer paint with a UV top coat with clear lacquer top coat.Ludwig only did this finish for a few years..The shells 1st one is 3 1/3x13 finish os Blue Marble it is a 6 ply maple shell..The other shell is also 3 1/2x12 in Black Marble shell is 4 ply maple.Both shells have edges done but no snare beds or lug holes are drill...Price is 75.00 each + shipping P/P fees...Email for photos..Mikey