Sorry the pic is so dark but you`ll get the idea.The steel hoops on my "Humberto Morales" timbales have a plastic coating on them which is splitting from wear and age.This plastic coating appears to be a one piece as i can`t find a seam anywhere.Is it possible to repair or replace these plastic covers and if so...how?Also,would the original plastic heads that came with this set have been Ambassadors?Any help here is greatly appreciated-your thoughts please.
Wayne
Hahaha That plastic coat can be replaced. It is a rubber coat and sold in hardware's. It is used to put a plastic coat on handles of tools such as pliers it is called Dip and Grip. Its an expensive chemical the bottle can cost you about $15.00-20.00. Now a very inexpensive way you can replace the look is by taking all of the white coat off and applying White Electrical Tape or any color You wish. Just wrapped around the rim. I have these two sets of Rogers one was re wrapped with Plastic tape / calf heads , the other has wrap calf on the Rims as they also came back in 1967.
Hahaha That plastic coat can be replaced. It is a rubber coat and sold in hardware's. It is used to put a plastic coat on handles of tools such as pliers it is called Dip and Grip. Its an expensive chemical the bottle can cost you about $15.00-20.00. Now a very inexpensive way you can replace the look is by taking all of the white coat off and applying White Electrical Tape or any color You wish. Just wrapped around the rim. I have these two sets of Rogers one was re wrapped with Plastic tape / calf heads , the other has wrap calf on the Rims as they also came back in 1967.
cuquito717-thank you very much for this information and your prompt reply.Could be a difficult task trying to coat the hoops with the"Dip & Grip" as i`d need a small vat full of it in order to dip the whole hoop in at once which i`m assuming would be the only way to do this.Might not be very cost effective? On the other hand the tape wrap might be the way to go.There must be a moulding company out there somewhere that does this type of work and i`ll try to track that down as well.Any idea on the origianl plastic heads on these-Ambassadors maybe? Thanks again for your great ideas on the repair of these hoops and i love your set(s) of Rogers timbales.We both know just how amazing they sound!Thankyou cuquito717.
Wayne
cuquito717-thank you very much for this information and your prompt reply.Could be a difficult task trying to coat the hoops with the"Dip & Grip" as i`d need a small vat full of it in order to dip the whole hoop in at once which i`m assuming would be the only way to do this.Might not be very cost effective? On the other hand the tape wrap might be the way to go.There must be a moulding company out there somewhere that does this type of work and i`ll try to track that down as well.Any idea on the origianl plastic heads on these-Ambassadors maybe? Thanks again for your great ideas on the repair of these hoops and i love your set(s) of Rogers timbales.We both know just how amazing they sound!Thankyou cuquito717.Wayne
Wayne The job is easy to do the problem is that you have to use quite a bit of that Dip & Grip to cover both rim's. The way it is done you dip rim and turn, as it covers all around . It is very quick drying so it's a quick job. Rogers had a machine that rotated the rim in a tank and cover it completely. As to the heads they were made by Remo and they were same gauge as Ambassadors, but I personally do not like Plastic heads hahaha as you can see none of my sets have plastic, and I have tons of them haha. Rogers, Leedy, Leedy & Ludwig are the best timbales you can buy you also have the LP green and gold badges that are very good. These are just a few of what I own haha. White electrical Tape is about the easiest way to go and the cheapest.
Wayne The job is easy to do the problem is that you have to use quite a bit of that Dip & Grip to cover both rim's. The way it is done you dip rim and turn, as it covers all around . It is very quick drying so it's a quick job. Rogers had a machine that rotated the rim in a tank and cover it completely. As to the heads they were made by Remo and they were same gauge as Ambassadors, but I personally do not like Plastic heads hahaha as you can see none of my sets have plastic, and I have tons of them haha. Rogers, Leedy, Leedy & Ludwig are the best timbales you can buy you also have the LP green and gold badges that are very good. These are just a few of what I own haha. White electrical Tape is about the easiest way to go and the cheapest.
Gud` God Ya`ll cuquito717 !!! I`ve never in my life seen so many beautiful timbales all in one place at one time.That is an extrodinairy collection that you have there and i`m speechless to tell you the truth...How many years did it take of collecting these wonderful instruments to amass such a great collection? I`m abit stunned here as i thought you having two sets was really something.Absolutlely amazing what you have and many congrats on what i`d say is THE most incredible timbale collection in the entire world!
Now...after i catch my breath here.Thank you so much for your advice and direction on my rims and if i can work up the courage i may have a go at the"Dip & Grip" but as you say the white electical tape is a safe and inexpensive solution.One last question as i don`t want to pester you but would it be ok to use white 2 1/2" wide duck tape and instead of winding the rim,go right around the rim in one direction?Thanks again for your much valued and trusted advice-what a collection WOW!!!
Wayne
Gud` God Ya`ll cuquito717 !!! I`ve never in my life seen so many beautiful timbales all in one place at one time.That is an extrodinairy collection that you have there and i`m speechless to tell you the truth...How many years did it take of collecting these wonderful instruments to amass such a great collection? I`m abit stunned here as i thought you having two sets was really something.Absolutlely amazing what you have and many congrats on what i`d say is THE most incredible timbale collection in the entire world! Now...after i catch my breath here.Thank you so much for your advice and direction on my rims and if i can work up the courage i may have a go at the"Dip & Grip" but as you say the white electical tape is a safe and inexpensive solution.One last question as i don`t want to pester you but would it be ok to use white 2 1/2" wide duck tape and instead of winding the rim,go right around the rim in one direction?Thanks again for your much valued and trusted advice-what a collection WOW!!!Wayne
Lmao Wayne that collection took me approx 50 years to put together . Every place and country that i visited when I was working something came back with me. From trap sets to bongo , timbales ,congas you name it. The same with brands, there some drum that are not in photos that I have had from companies unknown in US. I found out all the stuff I had one I moved out of my mothers home to my own house. haha
The Dip AND GRIP is easy because as you dip and pull out it's dry, buy Yes the electric tape is a lot easier. Duct tape I do not recommend it to thick and will bother with the claws and will come off with heat. Use the electric tape it will be fine. Feel free to ask any question i here to help special know that I am retired with nothing to do haha.
X's 2 on the outstanding timbale collection. I figured you had a few sets but wow. Thanks for sharing. The calf wrapped hoops are very nice. I have never seen that before. Great info on the elec tape and dip n grip too. Good things to know~!
You can see much more photos of my collection on Face book just go to Faustino Cruz Photos
Lmao Wayne that collection took me approx 50 years to put together . Every place and country that i visited when I was working something came back with me. From trap sets to bongo , timbales ,congas you name it. The same with brands, there some drum that are not in photos that I have had from companies unknown in US. I found out all the stuff I had one I moved out of my mothers home to my own house. hahaThe Dip AND GRIP is easy because as you dip and pull out it's dry, buy Yes the electric tape is a lot easier. Duct tape I do not recommend it to thick and will bother with the claws and will come off with heat. Use the electric tape it will be fine. Feel free to ask any question i here to help special know that I am retired with nothing to do haha.
Thanks cuquito717 and thank heavens we have a timbale expert on the forum here.Doesn`t seem to be many guys here that have timbales so your knowledge of them is very much needed on this forum for those of us who do.I will stay away from the duct tape and go with the electrical for sure if i decide to go this route.WOW!!!-50 yrs of collecting is incredible and i admire you for it.I knew a collection like yours didn`t happen in 5-10 yrs.I`ll be sure to check out your collection on Facebook and thanks for letting us know.If i get brave i still may try the Dip & Grip method on my rims.Thanks so much again and also for being here to answer further questions i may have on this topic.Take care my timbale friend.
Wayne
