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1950's 14" Zildjian Flange/Bop hats

1969 Ludwig Big Beat Mod Orange 12/13/16/22
1976 Ludwig Green Vistalite 12/13/16/22 & 5 1/2x14
1940 Ludwig & Ludwig Universal Concert Snare 6.5x14
2013 C&C Aged WMP 13/16/22


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Posted on 12 years ago
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I've got a trans stamp flange like that, paired with a first stamp A. Sounds killer. Someone better snag them.

Posted on 12 years ago
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hello,

To be very honest with you...they look great however not trans / not 50s../

not 60s..but look like early 70s (quick beats ...are my best guess) because of the weight.

Bop iT / Til U Drop iT.

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1964 Cleveland,.18/14/12 in WMP
1966 Cleveland, 20/14/12 O'natural.
Fullerton,...20/16/13/12 Silver Glass

WFL
1957 B/R Super Classics In WMP

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Wood & COB Powertones,
Wood & COB Dynasonics,
57 Jazz Festival

Zildjian avedis cymbals.
40s/60s era.
Posted on 12 years ago
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From RIMS n SKINS

hello,To be very honest with you...they look great however not trans / not 50s../not 60s..but look like early 70s (quick beats ...are my best guess) because of the weight.

The flange hats were only made during the 40's-50's. They reissued them during the 70's but they were ink stamped and they lathing was way different in the 70's. Look at the bell pics to see the hand lathing. Also, the 3 dots are missing in the arabic logo, which is characteristic of the 40's and 50's. I dated them as 50's on my listing, but not sure.

1969 Ludwig Big Beat Mod Orange 12/13/16/22
1976 Ludwig Green Vistalite 12/13/16/22 & 5 1/2x14
1940 Ludwig & Ludwig Universal Concert Snare 6.5x14
2013 C&C Aged WMP 13/16/22


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Posted on 12 years ago
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From CIBDrummer

The flange hats were only made during the 40's-50's. They reissued them during the 70's but they were ink stamped and they lathing was way different in the 70's. Look at the bell pics to see the hand lathing. Also, the 3 dots are missing in the arabic logo, which is characteristic of the 40's and 50's. I dated them as 50's on my listing, but not sure.

I believe the easiest way to tell the difference between flange bop hats made in the 1950's and the 1970s re-issues is the width of the flange. The 1970s flange was 1.25" to 1.5" wide and close to double the size of the 1950's flange at 3/4".

Posted on 12 years ago
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could you post a pic of the bottom sides in your ebay listing?

mike

Posted on 12 years ago
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Both cymbals have irregular hammering. I would put them to 50's period

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Posted on 12 years ago
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The listing has new photos and should end the debate.

-Beau

1969 Ludwig Big Beat Mod Orange 12/13/16/22
1976 Ludwig Green Vistalite 12/13/16/22 & 5 1/2x14
1940 Ludwig & Ludwig Universal Concert Snare 6.5x14
2013 C&C Aged WMP 13/16/22


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Posted on 12 years ago
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Wow, That's a really nice set of hi hat cymbals. They look collector quality and bet they would be perfect in an acoustic or an unplugged setting.

Posted on 12 years ago
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From Slingalud

Wow, That's a really nice set of hi hat cymbals. They look collector quality and bet they would be perfect in an acoustic or an unplugged setting.

Thanks. No I didn't pay him to say that, but I do appreciate the kind words! :p

-Beau

1969 Ludwig Big Beat Mod Orange 12/13/16/22
1976 Ludwig Green Vistalite 12/13/16/22 & 5 1/2x14
1940 Ludwig & Ludwig Universal Concert Snare 6.5x14
2013 C&C Aged WMP 13/16/22


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Posted on 12 years ago
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