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Old 09-19-2021, 08:41 PM
rastus rastus is offline
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Default What is this vintage Ludwig strainer called?

Is there a name for this strainer on a Ludwig 1929 Pioneer snare?

I have another old Ludwig snare from the 1920's that is missing the strainer entirely along with the butt plate. This one is mahogany.
I bet it would be a nice sounding drum if I could collect all the pieces.

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Old 09-19-2021, 11:15 PM
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Default Re: What is this vintage Ludwig strainer called?

Looks like a Ludwig P-84

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Old 09-20-2021, 01:40 AM
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Default Re: What is this vintage Ludwig strainer called?

Vintage Drum Guide indicates it is a Pioneer.
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Old 09-20-2021, 08:14 AM
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I would like to see pictures of the wood snare.
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Old 09-20-2021, 11:07 AM
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Vintage Drum Guide indicates it is a Pioneer.
Thanks Dan. I was on the VDG but didn't dig deep enough. I found my snare drums in there but didn't get into the drum hardware section.
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Mapex Saturn kit with semi-matching bass drums
1969 and 1977 Ludwig 400 Supraphonic snares
1965 Acrolite snare
Ludwig Coliseum snare
Pearl free floating piccolo snare
13" Mapex piccolo snare
1959 Slingerland Super Gene Krupa snare in WMP
mid 20's Ludwig Universal Snare NOB
mid 20's Ludwig wood separate tension snare
UFIP cymbals
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Old 09-20-2021, 12:38 PM
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I would like to see pictures of the wood snare.
From what I have found it is 1923-ish. It has the gold Ludwig and Ludwig badge. It has a 15" mahogany shell. There are some extra holes in the shell and the top rim that Mike thought were for a marching harness.
The top calfskin head looks decent, the bottom one is horked.

Hopefully the picture is right side up when it uploads
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Mapex Saturn kit with semi-matching bass drums
1969 and 1977 Ludwig 400 Supraphonic snares
1965 Acrolite snare
Ludwig Coliseum snare
Pearl free floating piccolo snare
13" Mapex piccolo snare
1959 Slingerland Super Gene Krupa snare in WMP
mid 20's Ludwig Universal Snare NOB
mid 20's Ludwig wood separate tension snare
UFIP cymbals
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Old 09-20-2021, 12:41 PM
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Looks like a Ludwig P-84
There is a P-84 on Reverb that looks like it.

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Mapex Saturn kit with semi-matching bass drums
1969 and 1977 Ludwig 400 Supraphonic snares
1965 Acrolite snare
Ludwig Coliseum snare
Pearl free floating piccolo snare
13" Mapex piccolo snare
1959 Slingerland Super Gene Krupa snare in WMP
mid 20's Ludwig Universal Snare NOB
mid 20's Ludwig wood separate tension snare
UFIP cymbals
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Old 09-20-2021, 01:58 PM
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From what I have found it is 1923-ish. It has the gold Ludwig and Ludwig badge. It has a 15" mahogany shell. There are some extra holes in the shell and the top rim that Mike thought were for a marching harness.
The top calfskin head looks decent, the bottom one is horked.

Hopefully the picture is right side up when it uploads
When I enlarge the photo it no longer is hanging on the ceiling.

Thank you for posting a picture. Enjoyed seeing it.
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Old 09-21-2021, 01:19 AM
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How popular were the 15" shells and were they issued for a specific purpose, say, orchestral work? I had a 20's era Ludwig metal snare back in the 90's and nobody seemed interested except one local collector who was willing to make a run and buy me a very rusty BDP Dynasonic in trade. I think the asking price on the Dyna was $400 at the time. My wife had found the Ludwig at a yard sale for $2, so the trade worked out nicely. I have no idea what he eventually paid for the Dyna but we were both happy after the transactions. I had to buy a metal Dyna to donate the nice chrome to the BDP. Paid $100 or so for the metal one and was still able to get $75 on the resale with the rusted stuff on it. I bought it at one Daddy's Junky Music and sold it back in at another.
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Old 09-21-2021, 10:24 AM
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Daddy's Junky Music is a name that I haven't heard in several years. As a long-time manufacturer's representative in the musical instrument business, I had a word for stores and regional chains like Daddy's Junky Music. I labeled them as the "We used to be the big guys" stores. Most of those stores and regional chains were famous/infamous for a few things. They were discounters when most mom and pop stores did not discount. They stared the catalog and toll-free telephone sales segment of the business that took away sales from smaller stores. Their aggressive discounting and increased cost of doing business made them more vulnerable to the onslaught of the mega chain big box stores. Sam Ash seems to be the only once-local chain of stores that adapted to the changes in retailing, and managed to expand rather than fold.
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